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Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2022
Published: Feb. 22, 2022
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Alright, I know this is going to get absolutely destroyed, but hear me out, if we are gonna suck the next 3-4 years because of the cap crunch, why not bolster the prospect pool to be one of the best ever.
Free Agent Signings
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4$2,200,000
3$1,000,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Power, Owen [Reserve List]
  3. Tuch, Alex
  4. 2022 1st round pick (BUF)
2.
MIN
  1. Faber, Brock [Reserve List]
  2. Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
3.
MIN
  1. Brink, Bobby [Reserve List]
  2. 2024 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
4.
MIN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
5.
MIN
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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20$82,500,000$57,571,920$0$2,110,000$24,928,080
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
LW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$825,833$825,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 3

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: C21
I'd rather not hear you out. Not only are these deals ridiculous on so many levels but you also completely lost me once you justified why the Wild should ponder this idea with "if we are going to suck for the next 3-4 years..."

The Wild will be absolutely fine and are drafting at a very high level right now. There's no reason to give up a franchise talent like Kaprizov along with everyone else


So next year they have 1 scoring line, one defensive line and 2 lines that are pretty much just paper mache. Their top 4 defenseman are decent, really lacking a 4th to round it out and goaltending is shaky at best.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
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That is an old article, look for the one posted on Feb 9th 2022 where the Kings are actually #2 in the NHL behind only the sabres. Lots can change over time, like graduating Kaliev out of prospect status.


That's fine, you can use that one too if you want. If you look at his tiered chart, Byfield is the clear #1, Clarke is the clear #2, and #3-8 (including all the guys you mention) are all right about the same level. If you read the comments, Wheeler also responds and says that every one of #3-8 would be included in his top 50 prospects list in the NHL. So you're talking A-/B+ prospects, not B/B-. Unless you're suggesting that the 2nd best prospect pool in the NHL only has two A-rated prospects?
Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.
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That's fine, you can use that one too if you want. If you look at his tiered chart, Byfield is the clear #1, Clarke is the clear #2, and #3-8 (including all the guys you mention) are all right about the same level. If you read the comments, Wheeler also responds and says that every one of #3-8 would be included in his top 50 prospects list in the NHL. So you're talking A-/B+ prospects, not B/B-. Unless you're suggesting that the 2nd best prospect pool in the NHL only has two A-rated prospects?


Yeah, I am going to state that the rankings are A for the clear cut (Byfield) A-/B+ for Clarke and B/B- for the next 6, thats exactly what I am stating, there is nothing that has ever changed with what I am stating. There are less than 10 A prospects in the NHL, as there should be. Players 20 and under who are either ready for serious NHL minutes or Goalies who project to be superstars.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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Yeah, I am going to state that the rankings are A for the clear cut (Byfield) A-/B+ for Clarke and B/B- for the next 6, thats exactly what I am stating, there is nothing that has ever changed with what I am stating. There are less than 10 A prospects in the NHL, as there should be. Players 20 and under who are either ready for serious NHL minutes or Goalies who project to be superstars.


Well then I think your asking price is very unreasonable, because the guys that you're calling B/B- prospects would be the single best prospect on nearly half the teams in the NHL.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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So next year they have 1 scoring line, one defensive line and 2 lines that are pretty much just paper mache. Their top 4 defenseman are decent, really lacking a 4th to round it out and goaltending is shaky at best.


I'm going to assume the roster you're invisioning doesn't include Fiala. Meaning he's traded & we resign Goose and leave it at that. Well, that literally means it's going to be a very similar roster to what we had before Boldy came up.

So, how is going from Fiala-Boldy, Rask-Rossi, Pitlick-Dewar, possibly keeping Jugs, & adding some other forward (bring up Beckman?) Going to magically make this team terrible? They started 7-3 I believe. And there's an argument that each and everyone of those replacements to the opening night roster would be an improvement.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
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I am saying kaprizov is our franchise and they're no deal a team like wild should take to move him. Never said anything about this proposal. Wild also will not rebuild, so it simply doesn't matter


If the Wild were offered the above package, they couldn’t fax that in fast enough. Sorry that’s just silly to say that that package wouldn’t make them better. A package around a first overall player in power, a good player in Tuch (call him 80% of the player Kaprizov is) a prospect in the likes of Rossi added to the pipeline in Krebs, and a top five pick? If Guerin got offered that he’d drive Kaprizov to the airport himself.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
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If the Wild were offered the above package, they couldn’t fax that in fast enough. Sorry that’s just silly to say that that package wouldn’t make them better. A package around a first overall player in power, a good player in Tuch (call him 80% of the player Kaprizov is) a prospect in the likes of Rossi added to the pipeline in Krebs, and a top five pick? If Guerin got offered that he’d drive Kaprizov to the airport himself.


A package like this wouldn't make Minnesota better, that's just a fact. Alex would be 4th liner in Minnesota. Peyton Krebs would be a 3c. Power would be a 3d in Minnesota and we are already stacked and so we already stacked at d. So sorry nothings offered here besides power and 1st does anything fir Minnesota. You are blind to who Kaprizov is. Tusch isn't even better than fiala, so it's laughable that you think he's anything close to Kaprizov. Krebs isn't better than Joel Eriksson ek or Ross, sl again no. Minnesota would keep Kaprizov. Player's like kaprizov don't get traded.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:50 p.m.
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A package like this wouldn't make Minnesota better, that's just a fact. Alex would be 4th liner in Minnesota. Peyton Krebs would be a 3c. Power would be a 3d in Minnesota and we are already stacked and so we already stacked at d. So sorry nothings offered here besides power and 1st does anything fir Minnesota. You are blind to who Kaprizov is. Tusch isn't even better than fiala, so it's laughable that you think he's anything close to Kaprizov. Krebs isn't better than Joel Eriksson ek or Ross, sl again no. Minnesota would keep Kaprizov. Player's like kaprizov don't get traded.


The only thing you got right is a 20 year old Krebs being your 3C now. Tuch as a 4th liner is an interesting take. Not wasting anymore time here.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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The only thing you got right is a 20 year old Krebs being your 3C now. Tuch as a 4th liner is an interesting take. Not wasting anymore time here.


Tusch has proven what he's. He's not better than a 3rd liner in Fiala and boldy. Just because players are good on bad teams with lack of depth or superstar doesn't mean he will in Minnesota. Yop, Krebs would be 3c, because he's not better than Rossi, a selke two way C in ek. It's actually laughable that you compared tusch to Kaprizov. Kaprizov is a dynamic franchise player, tuscg isn't. Tusch is a good top 6 to 9 player, power would be behind one of the best dman in the nhl in Jonas brodin, and also be behind spurgeon. So no, Guerin, nor any gm would take this deal in a hurry
Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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If the Wild were offered the above package, they couldn’t fax that in fast enough. Sorry that’s just silly to say that that package wouldn’t make them better. A package around a first overall player in power, a good player in Tuch (call him 80% of the player Kaprizov is) a prospect in the likes of Rossi added to the pipeline in Krebs, and a top five pick? If Guerin got offered that he’d drive Kaprizov to the airport himself.


Pretty accurate assessment. I based it off the Eichel deal and added some based on 1) what it would take to get Kaprizov out of Minnesota 2) He didn't have a neck injury
Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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Tusch has proven what he's. He's not better than a 3rd liner in Fiala and boldy. Just because players are good on bad teams with lack of depth or superstar doesn't mean he will in Minnesota. Yop, Krebs would be 3c, because he's not better than Rossi, a selke two way C in ek. It's actually laughable that you compared tusch to Kaprizov. Kaprizov is a dynamic franchise player, tuscg isn't. Tusch is a good top 6 to 9 player, power would be behind one of the best dman in the nhl in Jonas brodin, and also be behind spurgeon. So no, Guerin, nor any gm would take this deal in a hurry


This is as difficult to understand as any of your posts, good job, you one upped yourself.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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Tusch has proven what he's. He's not better than a 3rd liner in Fiala and boldy. Just because players are good on bad teams with lack of depth or superstar doesn't mean he will in Minnesota. Yop, Krebs would be 3c, because he's not better than Rossi, a selke two way C in ek. It's actually laughable that you compared tusch to Kaprizov. Kaprizov is a dynamic franchise player, tuscg isn't. Tusch is a good top 6 to 9 player, power would be behind one of the best dman in the nhl in Jonas brodin, and also be behind spurgeon. So no, Guerin, nor any gm would take this deal in a hurry


Tuch* (Jesus how hard is it to spell, especially since he was on the Wild, at which point I bet you were calling him the next best power forward in the NHL) had a higher ES points per game then Fiala. Whoops, did that blow up your logic? Yeah, he didn’t get PP time in Vegas, but looking at what he’s doing maybe he shoulda. Those point totals would have been much higher.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:04 p.m.
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This is as difficult to understand as any of your posts, good job, you one upped yourself.


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This is as difficult to understand as any of your posts, good job, you one upped yourself.


Because you are wrong about kaprizov. Franchise player's like kaprizov don't all of a sudden gets traded because you think they should rebuild. Tusch has never been a 1st line player or Franchise player in his career along with being injury prone

Power would be 3d on Minnesota behind spurgeon and brodin

Peyton Krebs would be behind Rossi and Joel Eriksson ek
Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.
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Tuch* (Jesus how hard is it to spell, especially since he was on the Wild, at which point I bet you were calling him the next best power forward in the NHL) had a higher ES points per game then Fiala. Whoops, did that blow up your logic? Yeah, he didn’t get PP time in Vegas, but looking at what he’s doing maybe he shoulda. Those point totals would have been much higher.


You have to understand if there was an offer of McDavid half retained plus a first for Kaprizov, he would still say that Kaprizov is not moved ever. There is no logic.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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Tuch* (Jesus how hard is it to spell, especially since he was on the Wild, at which point I bet you were calling him the next best power forward in the NHL) had a higher ES points per game then Fiala. Whoops, did that blow up your logic? Yeah, he didn’t get PP time in Vegas, but looking at what he’s doing maybe he shoulda. Those point totals would have been much higher.


I never liked tusch that much. When he was traded, i was more upset about erik haula being lost at that time and calling fletcher a horrible gm. Either way it doesn't matter, because Minnesota wouldn't trade their franchise player and they will never rebuild
Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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I never liked tusch that much. When he was traded, i was more upset about erik haula being lost at that time and calling fletcher a horrible gm. Either way it doesn't matter, because Minnesota wouldn't trade their franchise player and they will never rebuild


More upset over losing a 3rd/4th line center than the best prospect in the system. Explains ALOT
Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:23 p.m.
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bad for every team involved


Wrong.

HORRIBLE for every team involved.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 6:55 p.m.
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Wrong.

HORRIBLE for every team involved.


Just the Sabres
 
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