Dont lose your mind its just an idea

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Created by: NucksnOilers

Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2022

Published: Feb. 22, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

EDM

Girard, Samuel

COL

Puljujärvi, Jesse

Additional Details:

Of course this would be done in the offseason with other pieces/trades done to equal out the value but it fits both teams needs and sends talent the other way with more room to develop

Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667
Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$84,436,497	$669,339	$1,840,000	-$2,936,497

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 7	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 5	Yamamoto, Kailer $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW RFA - 1
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 8	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Sceviour, Colton $750,000$750,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Perlini, Brendan $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kane, Evander $2,108,696$2,108,696 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan $834,167$834,167 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 1
Shore, Devin $850,000$850,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2
Benson, Tyler $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000$5,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 4	Smith, Mike $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
Niemeläinen, Markus $817,500$817,500 ($82,500$82K) LD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2
Lagesson, William $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 6

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 2	Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
	Turris, Kyle $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
	Russell, Kris $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Thats a non starter for COL. Girard is better in pretty much every way

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.

Foppa21

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Quoting: UpsideDownQue

Thats a non starter for COL. Girard is better in pretty much every way

Girard is better in every way. Fixed it for you

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:54 p.m.

NucksnOilers

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Quoting: UpsideDownQue

Thats a non starter for COL. Girard is better in pretty much every way

Ok well yeah, Girard is obviously better but Jesse fits solid needs for colorado as he is a great driving force in the top 6 so in your opinion what pieces would need to be added for this to work?

Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.

coga16

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There is no way this idea gets off the ground: girard holds more value than this

JP is not betting a top 4 dman in a trade, this is not a reverse hall for larsson

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.

Zmach

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edmonton wouldnt want a guy with that much term

Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: Drshnuckels91

Ok well yeah, Girard is obviously better but Jesse fits solid needs for colorado as he is a great driving force in the top 6 so in your opinion what pieces would need to be added for this to work?

I just dont think there is anything that EDM could reasonably add that would get COL to accept this tbh. Puljujarvi is good but he would need to improve quite a bit to get Girard in a trade imo

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: Zmach

edmonton wouldnt want a guy with that much term

right you would rather give term to Cody Ceci instead...good call

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: Drshnuckels91

Ok well yeah, Girard is obviously better but Jesse fits solid needs for colorado as he is a great driving force in the top 6 so in your opinion what pieces would need to be added for this to work?

a better younger cost controlled signed long term fwd. Puljujarvi is not that

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:35 p.m.

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: Drshnuckels91

Ok well yeah, Girard is obviously better but Jesse fits solid needs for colorado as he is a great driving force in the top 6 so in your opinion what pieces would need to be added for this to work?

I'll take a stab here.

First off, I think even the coming off season is too soon. Colorado has Byram, Barron, and Helleson on the way, but until Byram is healthy and more seasoned AND one of the other guys is ready, Girard is very important to the team.

Let's say a lot goes right with the guys above and it's 2023. I still don't think the Avs do it without a big add that Edmonton might not be willing to go for (e.g., Broberg and then balance from there).

In other words, I personally just don't see the fit on this one. It's an interesting idea though, so I do appreciate that part. Have always liked Puljujarvi too, so I would be happy to get him (just not for Girard).

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 3:36 p.m.

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Xqb15a

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You’re talking about adding SIGNIFICANTLY to even be taken seriously by COL. Nobody wants to hear it but Girard is as good or better than Chychrun

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.

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NucksnOilers

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Quoting: coga16

a better younger cost controlled signed long term fwd. Puljujarvi is not that

I wouldn't personally wanna do this but Hollaway matches that definition exactly but he would be too valuable to trade away

Girard is super good and I would love to have him on edmonton it's just annoying cause I know there's a fair deal somewhere but it's just hard to find

Feb. 22, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: Drshnuckels91

Hollaway doesnt move the needle either, hes just a high end prospect. Avs are not selling off Girard for risk of futures and guys hitting their potential

The short answer, edmonton does not have anything that the avs would want for girard. Hollaway, Yamo, JP. Those are your best options and they dont have the impact that Girard has.

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Feb. 22, 2022 at 4:24 p.m.

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NucksnOilers

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Quoting: coga16

Ok well I am gonna attempt a serious girard trade after all the feedback I got here and ill @ you in the post to see ur thoughts on it

Feb. 22, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

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ricochetii

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I don't think it's as bad a concept as people are making it out to be.

Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I have to agree with this one though.

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