Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
How about people stop saying Trent Frederic is practically untouchable given he was labeled a 3rd liner by management, regressed in his 2nd year in college and played on the 4th line at the WJC. Why would you consider him really valuable because he's basically got small chance of being a top 6 C, a medium chance of being a 3rd C and a large chance of being a 4th liner or maybe even AHL status. Is the fact that you think he can play on the 4th line really something you can take a step back from, analyze and suggest that a guy who has a higher probability of playing on line 4 than 2 or above is really as valuable as you are making him out to be? If he's a 4th liner he's practically busted imo, you don't draft 4th liners in the 1st round. Not even Chiarelli is stupid enough to think that would be an effective strategy. It'd be nice if everyone pumped the breaks on him and instead give more credit to Zboril and Lauzon as they are a lot more valuable "right now". Give me the AHL defenseman who makes mistakes a rarity over the Big bodied center who can't score.
What are you rambling about? Who has said that Trent Frederic is "practically untouchable"? This smells like that garbage tactic to make up **** to form an
argument. Now, this isn't the first time you've said "management" labeled him as a 3rd liner. Are you thick headed, or do you just go off one thing and run with it? Keith Gretzky said this, and he's the only one I recall saying it....Keith Gretzky left for Edmonton shortly after this draft. "Management" sounds like a majority said they expected him to be that, but it was one guy, who left the same off-season.
Unless you're watching the player, which i'm 110% confident you don't watch Wisconsin hockey, you can't say he "regressed". This stinks like a stat watching goof. "DUR!! I LOOKED AT HOCKEYDB AND FREDERIC HAS LESS POINTS THAN HE DID HIS FRESHMAN YEAR! REGRESSION!!! BUST!!! DUR!!" LMFAO. That's how I picture you on this subject. Referencing where he was played during the WJC? That feels like a legitimate point to argue this? Frederic had a better WJC than Poehling, who played more. Motzko, who coaches Poehling in college, was a big reason for that move. The move actually sucked. Frederic, despite playing mostly on the 4th line, finished tied 5th on the team in points, and 2nd for goals. but... "DUR!! FREDERIC WAS ON DA 4TH LINE IN DA WORLD JUNIORS SO HE MUST NOT BE DAT GOOD! DUR!!" LMFAO
At the end of the day, Frederic is a centerman with great size, two way ability, and one of the best shots in the NCAA. He has top 6 upside, and should not be tossed into trades for the sake of it. I get it... You heard one thing from someone so now that is gospel. Since you don't watch the player at all, you now have this "3rd liner" thing tied to his name and that's all you assume he is. Frederic has an NHL floor, I know this line fires you all up (I remember the last time I smacked you on Frederic... it's 2 E Z) with top 6 upside. If you can get that anywhere in the draft, it's a good pick.
Stop making up **** to fit your argument. No one has said he's practically untouchable. Also, if someone values Frederic more than Zboril/Lauzon, there's ZERO wrong with that. He plays a position that Boston isn't overly deep at for prospects, and has a lot of desirable qualities for the position.
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Big bodied center who can't score.
LMFAO. 30 goals in 62 games, Just under a PPG at the NCAA level. Out of 100 players, he's tied 19th for goals and 48th for points. You have 0.0 clue what you're talking about. If this is the quality of posts we're going to get on our prospects, it's going to be a field day
Take this post to HFboards....I'm sure you'd get destroyed LMFAO