The Kotkaniemi ship has sailed, it's time to move on and look forward. And I really don't want him to use his QO as leverage.

has KK been good or bad this year

Invisibly meh.

If him and his agent request $6 million AAV on his next contract, the Canes trade him or let him walk into UFA.

Not a pretty picture.

idk id accept if I was Montreal
pairing up the suzuki bros

VERY good

So you don't watch Canes games... he's been excellent in his role. Very sheltered yes, but a big reason the 4th line is actually putting pucks in.

This is a pretty easy no from Carolina.

Lehkonen < Suzuki
Dvorak < Kotkaniemi

Pick is going the wrong way

Are you going to pay him $6+ million for his bottom 6 forward role ?

No, which is why he's reportedly in negotiations with the team around the 4.5 mark and a deal is close (Lebrun, Athletic)

i think he gets 3.5 probably

canes give up too much take out suzuki

The report is 4-4.5, and it's close. That was Lebrun a few weeks ago. It got really close when KK was in protocol, but since he got out he's wanted to stay focused about on-ice stuff.

I love this trade so much

He deserves less but will get more.

Sad really.

The chance Ryan Suzuki becomes as good Lehkonen is are under 15%

Lehkonen is a defensively fantastic forward with offensive issues. He's a 3rd liner, possibly lower, on a contender. Suzuki has that upside 100%, and at a more valuable position, I wouldn't give him up 1 for 1.

Sits around 70th in the league for 5v5 points per 60

Decent then

Yes is position is more valuable, but because of is injury to the eye and he never had that top 6 upside, Lehkonen is worth more

Suzu has always had top 6 upside. That's why he was taken in the first round by one of the best organizations in hockey in the draft... Suzuki's eye injury is way overtalked about. There's a millimeter wide blind spot on the inside of his eye, where the stick caught him. It doesn't impair his vision... he's worth more than a pending UFA bottom sixer.

First, Lehkonen isn’t a pending UFA
Second, Suzuki never had top 6 potential
That doesn’t mean he can’t become one, but we are acting like every 1st RD & 2nd RD pick have top 6 upside for the forwards and top 4 upside for the dmans but what only 20% hits that ?

Just because they don't meet their potential doesn't mean they don't have that upside. Almost every 1st rounder WILL have that kind of upside, and Suzu is no different. There's a reason he was taken ahead of so many others. He has top 6 upside.

Sorry, Lehkonen is a pending RFA with a QO of 2.3 mil and ages out of restricted free agency three days after it starts.

Alright, if Suzuki didn’t have at all top 6 upside, would it be fair to trade a solid 3rd liner for someone who doesn’t have top 6 upside ? No. Now, it depends how you see R. Suzuki development and if Lehkonen is what you need to bring the team another level above. I don’t think CAR needs a Lehkonen that badly, Chiarot would be more valuable IMO

No. Lehkonen is a luxury. Chiarot is a pylon. I'd rather get Lindholm, Manson, Chychurn, Soucy, Giordano, literally almost anyone else.

Lindholm Chychrun are gonna cost a lot
Giordano Chiarot probably a 1st + prospect
Soucy DeHaan a 2nd
IMO they are in good order of best to worse