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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 1, 2022
Published: Mar. 1, 2022
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  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Voit, Ty
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
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C
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
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$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
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NTC
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LD
NMC
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NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
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Mar. 1, 2022 at 8:54 p.m.
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You have the wrong Canuck here. Miller is the one they would want, not the more expensive Kerfoot
Mar. 1, 2022 at 9:13 p.m.
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The Leafs can't afford an expensive winger next year. Yes Garland is nice, but he's a bare top 6 forward with the Leafs. Save the cap, picks and Liljegren for the Leafs or for a better trade piece.
Mar. 1, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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You have the wrong Canuck here. Miller is the one they would want, not the more expensive Kerfoot


Leafs don't have the assets without touching their top 6 to trade for miller
Mar. 1, 2022 at 11:45 p.m.
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Leafs don't have the assets without touching their top 6 to trade for miller


Well considering you think Schenn is worth a 2nd plus, everything you say is just ridiculous
Mar. 2, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Well considering you think Schenn is worth a 2nd plus, everything you say is just ridiculous


I said schenn is worth a 2nd not plus so that's news to me
Mar. 2, 2022 at 1:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Well considering you think Schenn is worth a 2nd plus, everything you say is just ridiculous


Schenn is worth a 2nd or a 3rd +
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Mar. 2, 2022 at 6:41 a.m.
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The Leafs can't afford an expensive winger next year. Yes Garland is nice, but he's a bare top 6 forward with the Leafs. Save the cap, picks and Liljegren for the Leafs or for a better trade piece.


The point of this trade was to load up for a long play off run, while adding players with term and without gutting our prospect pool. Lilly addresses a need for the Canucks on the right side and Voit is a very good forward prospect that’s trending in the right direction. Probably 2-3 years away. Van gets a pretty good package all things considered.

Garland brings grit and offensive skill to the top 6. Miller will cost a top prospect out the gate and his AAV is higher next year with less term.

Dubas can worry about moving Kerf or Muzz in the off season to reclaim cap. Both of these players bring term and address immediate needs on the Leaf roster.

On a side note, I’m not sure why so many Leaf ACGM’s keep forcing Kerf into trades. He’s been our best utility forward all season. He’s having a career year with zero PP time. He’s the type of player you hold on to for a PO run.
Mar. 2, 2022 at 6:46 a.m.
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I said schenn is worth a 2nd not plus so that's news to me


A 2nd alone is more than enough to make you look ridiculous. You are talking about a guy who would be the 8th defenceman on all good teams.
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Mar. 2, 2022 at 6:46 a.m.
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Quoting: CanucksPain
Schenn is worth a 2nd or a 3rd +


No, he's worth a 4th or 5th. 7/8 defenceman are not worth very much. And that is what he is everywhere but in Vancouver
Mar. 2, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
A 2nd alone is more than enough to make you look ridiculous. You are talking about a guy who would be the 8th defenceman on all good teams.


Damn that's crazy i guess your opinion goes against all of the insiders knowledge
Mar. 2, 2022 at 9:07 a.m.
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Quoting: tony135420
The point of this trade was to load up for a long play off run, while adding players with term and without gutting our prospect pool. Lilly addresses a need for the Canucks on the right side and Voit is a very good forward prospect that’s trending in the right direction. Probably 2-3 years away. Van gets a pretty good package all things considered.

Garland brings grit and offensive skill to the top 6. Miller will cost a top prospect out the gate and his AAV is higher next year with less term.

Dubas can worry about moving Kerf or Muzz in the off season to reclaim cap. Both of these players bring term and address immediate needs on the Leaf roster.

On a side note, I’m not sure why so many Leaf ACGM’s keep forcing Kerf into trades. He’s been our best utility forward all season. He’s having a career year with zero PP time. He’s the type of player you hold on to for a PO run.


I think you proved my point about the absurdity of trading for 4.9m Garland cause it doesn't work for cap reasons. Kerfoot really shouldn't be traded, as he is a bargain at 3.5m
But get over this silliness about Muzzin being traded. He has full NTC now in 22/23
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Damn that's crazy i guess your opinion goes against all of the insiders knowledge


A guy who has been an injury replacement for a good team isn't all of a sudden a major contributor because he's the best you have on the worst Right side defence in the league. Schenn doesn't make most teams, he's the 7th or 8th guy on all good teams.
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
A guy who has been an injury replacement for a good team isn't all of a sudden a major contributor because he's the best you have on the worst Right side defence in the league. Schenn doesn't make most teams, he's the 7th or 8th guy on all good teams.


Then why do leaf fans keep trying to trade for him? Why are the leafs asking about him? Tell me you don't watch anyone but the leafs without telling me you watch anyone but the leafs
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
A guy who has been an injury replacement for a good team isn't all of a sudden a major contributor because he's the best you have on the worst Right side defence in the league. Schenn doesn't make most teams, he's the 7th or 8th guy on all good teams.


Your really making us leaf fans look bad... guy played solid 3rd paring mintues on Tampas back to back cups... big nasty responsible rhd that's making leauge min gets atleast a 3rd
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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Then why do leaf fans keep trying to trade for him? Why are the leafs asking about him? Tell me you don't watch anyone but the leafs without telling me you watch anyone but the leafs


Nostalgia, and many of those goofballs don't actually know how hockey is played. They just play Chel and ****
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Nostalgia, and many of those goofballs don't actually know how hockey is played. They just play Chel and ****


Okay but why is Dubas calling us about Schenn
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Your really making us leaf fans look bad... guy played solid 3rd paring mintues on Tampas back to back cups... big nasty responsible rhd that's making leauge min gets atleast a 3rd


He played 3rd pair minutes when guys were injured. He wasn't a starter. I would be happy to have Schenn as a 7/8 defenceman but he's not a 2nd pair guy. He's not better than anything we have currently. So giving up a 2nd is ridiculous
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:28 a.m.
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Okay but why is Dubas calling us about Schenn


He would be a good depth addition. 7/8th defenceman. We got Lyubushkin who is definitely better than Schenn and with Holl and Liljegren both also better than Schenn, why would we ever pay more than 4th or 5th for him? There are much better options to get.
Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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He would be a good depth addition. 7/8th defenceman. We got Lyubushkin who is definitely better than Schenn and with Holl and Liljegren both also better than Schenn, why would we ever pay more than 4th or 5th for him? There are much better options to get.


Loll holl has been dog water this year.. just another typical leafs fan who thinks their players are the best in the leauge
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Mar. 2, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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Loll holl has been dog water this year.. just another typical leafs fan who thinks their players are the best in the leauge


Funny how he's been dog water but his advance stats is much better than Schenn's. It's all relative. And is a concept you clearly can't understand. Schenn is a slow pylon who just hits and blocks shots but hurts you possession wise. There is a reason he's played in the AHL over the past 3 seasons.

As for the 2nd half of your nonsense statement. It's a typical response from the peanut gallery. Leaf fan says a player on their team isn't "dog water" and the angry anti leaf good says "typical leaf fan thinks their players are all the best".

Do you see how ridiculous that statement is? Holl isn't terrible and has been a good player for us in the past is not the same thing as Holl is the best.

However, you are saying Schenn is amazing and a top 4 defenceman and worth a 2nd. Why? Because you want a major return for a minor piece so you are extremely transparent in your bad used car salesman routine.

Slaps hood, this model of defenceman was once owned by James Bond!
Mar. 2, 2022 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
A 2nd alone is more than enough to make you look ridiculous. You are talking about a guy who would be the 8th defenceman on all good teams.


I literally just said a 2nd is enough idiot
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Mar. 2, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
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I literally just said a 2nd is enough idiot


A 2nd is ridiculous. He's a 4 RD. He's Ben Hutton. A 4th is plenty for a player of his calibre.
Mar. 2, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
A 2nd is ridiculous. He's a 4 RD. He's Ben Hutton. A 4th is plenty for a player of his calibre.

Hahahahahahahah……… HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Mar. 2, 2022 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Funny how he's been dog water but his advance stats is much better than Schenn's. It's all relative. And is a concept you clearly can't understand. Schenn is a slow pylon who just hits and blocks shots but hurts you possession wise. There is a reason he's played in the AHL over the past 3 seasons.

As for the 2nd half of your nonsense statement. It's a typical response from the peanut gallery. Leaf fan says a player on their team isn't "dog water" and the angry anti leaf good says "typical leaf fan thinks their players are all the best".

Do you see how ridiculous that statement is? Holl isn't terrible and has been a good player for us in the past is not the same thing as Holl is the best.

However, you are saying Schenn is amazing and a top 4 defenceman and worth a 2nd. Why? Because you want a major return for a minor piece so you are extremely transparent in your bad used car salesman routine.

Slaps hood, this model of defenceman was once owned by James Bond!


Buddy you have leaf fans saying your wrong
Mar. 3, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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Buddy you have leaf fans saying your wrong


I don't care what nostalgia ridden leaf fans think on this site. Half of them think literally any RHD is going to be an all-star in TO. They are foolish people who listen to the opinions of bias blowhards who think their irrelevant depth players deserve major returns. Realistic people know what real values are. Schenn is a depth defenceman on a good team. He has been that for the past 2 seasons in Tampa. But on a team with zero good RD, he's a top 4 player. That says way more about the state of the Canucks defence than it does schenns value.
 
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