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Created by: tony135420
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 1, 2022
Published: Mar. 1, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
VAN
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Voit, Ty
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,241,450$0$0$258,550

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3

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Mar. 3, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
I don't care what nostalgia ridden leaf fans think on this site. Half of them think literally any RHD is going to be an all-star in TO. They are foolish people who listen to the opinions of bias blowhards who think their irrelevant depth players deserve major returns. Realistic people know what real values are. Schenn is a depth defenceman on a good team. He has been that for the past 2 seasons in Tampa. But on a team with zero good RD, he's a top 4 player. That says way more about the state of the Canucks defence than it does schenns value.


You should go visit a different site. Sad part is I agree with your assessment of Schenn. Too bad you're attitude stinks....
Mar. 3, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: tony135420
You should go visit a different site. Sad part is I agree with your assessment of Schenn. Too bad you're attitude stinks....


Disagreeing with people means you have a bad attitude. Especially dealing with people who are obviously out to lunch. What a world we live in when the ignorant is who we should worry about offending. Intelligent people have bad attitudes for pointing it out. That checks out
Mar. 4, 2022 at 5:31 a.m.
#28
PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
I don't care what nostalgia ridden leaf fans think on this site. Half of them think literally any RHD is going to be an all-star in TO. They are foolish people who listen to the opinions of bias blowhards who think their irrelevant depth players deserve major returns. Realistic people know what real values are. Schenn is a depth defenceman on a good team. He has been that for the past 2 seasons in Tampa. But on a team with zero good RD, he's a top 4 player. That says way more about the state of the Canucks defence than it does schenns value.


it's funny i never claimed Schenn to be a top 4 dman on a contender once, i've said over and over he is a good 3rd paring guy who can step up when there is an injury, guy pk's and his defensively responsible and can play big minutes if needed while shutting it down. if foligno got a 1st then it's not crazy to ask for a late 2nd or early 3rd
Mar. 4, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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it's funny i never claimed Schenn to be a top 4 dman on a contender once, i've said over and over he is a good 3rd paring guy who can step up when there is an injury, guy pk's and his defensively responsible and can play big minutes if needed while shutting it down. if foligno got a 1st then it's not crazy to ask for a late 2nd or early 3rd


He can step up when one of the 6-7 better players ahead of him are injured. He's a replacement player. That's it. And those don't cost 2nds or even 3rds. You are dreaming and talking such a big game hoping it somehow leads to good things. It won't
Mar. 4, 2022 at 9:14 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
He can step up when one of the 6-7 better players ahead of him are injured. He's a replacement player. That's it. And those don't cost 2nds or even 3rds. You are dreaming and talking such a big game hoping it somehow leads to good things. It won't


he is a good 3rd paring guy on any team in the leauge and top 4 on some he will cost a 2nd/3rd other wise Van will hold on to him happily
Mar. 4, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
he is a good 3rd paring guy on any team in the leauge and top 4 on some he will cost a 2nd/3rd other wise Van will hold on to him happily


He was a replacement player in Tampa, he's a good 3rd pair player on a team like the Canucks who don't have any good RD
Mar. 4, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
#32
PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
He was a replacement player in Tampa, he's a good 3rd pair player on a team like the Canucks who don't have any good RD


Okay, me and you are never going to come to an agreement, I think it's the best to end this here instead of going on for another 3 days because clearly we have a difference of an opinion on the player
Mar. 4, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Okay, me and you are never going to come to an agreement, I think it's the best to end this here instead of going on for another 3 days because clearly we have a difference of an opinion on the player


I don't have an opinion, I have a conclusion based on evidence over a long time frame proving Schenn is a depth player on a good team. You have an opinion based on what you want to see happen. Emotional opinions will never work when discussing stuff from an intelligent fact base approach.
Mar. 4, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
I don't have an opinion, I have a conclusion based on evidence over a long time frame proving Schenn is a depth player on a good team. You have an opinion based on what you want to see happen. Emotional opinions will never work when discussing stuff from an intelligent fact base approach.


No no, I have an assessment saying he is a 3rd paring guy on most teams most insiders say he will catch a 3rd atleast especially at a time at the TDL, it's not like we haven't seen good depth peices get dealt for 1st and 2nds before, clearly you haven't watched schenn play much these past few years, still think you have him in leafs uni in your head, like I said we aren't going to come to agreement so there is no point going back and forwards on this, it's as simple as if Van doesn't like the package they don't trade him
Mar. 4, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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No no, I have an assessment saying he is a 3rd paring guy on most teams most insiders say he will catch a 3rd atleast especially at a time at the TDL, it's not like we haven't seen good depth peices get dealt for 1st and 2nds before, clearly you haven't watched schenn play much these past few years, still think you have him in leafs uni in your head, like I said we aren't going to come to agreement so there is no point going back and forwards on this, it's as simple as if Van doesn't like the package they don't trade him


If you don't realize insiders just speculate on crap to fire up fans knowing full well most of what they say is utter nonsense, then you are as lost as I think you are.
Mar. 4, 2022 at 8:35 p.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
If you don't realize insiders just speculate on crap to fire up fans knowing full well most of what they say is utter nonsense, then you are as lost as I think you are.


Lol sorry I forgot you know more then as all the insiders and former people that have worked inside an nhl office
Mar. 6, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Lol sorry I forgot you know more then as all the insiders and former people that have worked inside an nhl office


What insider is saying Schenn is worth a 2nd?
 
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