What it would take me to trade either of those players

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Created by: csick

Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 6, 2022

Published: Mar. 6, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

OTT

Boeser, Brock

VAN

Zub, Artem

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Give or take . Could balance either side with something

OTT

Pajuniemi, Lauri
2022 1st round pick (NYR)

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Price without retention. With id want another 2nd round pick

NYR

Brown, Connor ($1,800,000 retained)

OTT

2022 2nd round pick (WPG)
2023 3rd round pick (WSH)

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Any team

WSH

Paul, Nicholas

OTT

2023 4th round pick (CAR)

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Any team

CAR

Sanford, Zachary

OTT

2022 5th round pick (PIT)

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Any team

PIT

Brown, Joshua

OTT

2022 5th round pick (NSH)

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Any team

NSH

Ennis, Tyler

OTT

Future considerations any team

NSH

OTT

Koskinen, Mikko
2023 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Murray, Matt ($2,250,000 retained)

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Connor Brown: $1,800,000 (50%)
Matt Murray: $2,250,000 (48%)

Buried

Michael Del Zotto: $875,000 ($2,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$81,500,000	$65,136,924	$0	$4,590,000	$16,363,076

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,330,674$8,330,674 LW UFA - 7		White, Colin $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 4
		Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Gaudette, Adam $997,500$997,500 C, RW UFA - 1
Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Norris, Joshua $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 1
Formenton, Alex $747,500$747,500 ($107,500$108K) LW RFA - 1	Kelly, Parker $726,667$726,667 LW RFA - 1	Boeser, Brock $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW UFA - 1
		Pajuniemi, Lauri $883,750$883,750 ($82,500$82K) RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 7	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3
Holden, Nick $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD UFA - 1		Forsberg, Anton $900,000$900,000 G UFA - 1
		Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Brännström, Erik $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LD/RD, LW RFA - 1
Heatherington, Dillon $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
	Tierney, Chris $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 1
	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 2

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.

aecliptic

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As a Rangers fan, I would far far rather go for Nick Paul than Connor Brown at that price.

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Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.

csick

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KFTW

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Quoting: aecliptic

As a Rangers fan, I would far far rather go for Nick Paul than Connor Brown at that price.

That’s totally fair. Brown provides more offence tbh but Paul is more valuable than anything his numbers suggest .

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.

NotJimBenning

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Canucks counter with Boeser for Stützle

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.

aecliptic

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Quoting: csick

That’s totally fair. Brown provides more offence tbh but Paul is more valuable than anything his numbers suggest .

His resign cost shouldnt be particularly high. He would be fantastic on a rebuilt 3rd line as center.

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Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

csick

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KFTW

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Quoting: MikeyG420

Canucks counter with Boeser for Stützle

You’re quite funny. You’re getting the perfect partner for Hughes . RHD are valuable and Zub is a really good one.

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.

NotJimBenning

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Quoting: csick

You’re quite funny. You’re getting the perfect partner for Hughes . RHD are valuable and Zub is a really good one.

I wasn’t saying Zub was a bad player. He just isn’t someone the Canucks would consider in a trade for any of our major players. Yes, we need RHD. But a potential 4th D isn’t worth Boeser. Boes will most likely fetch us a first, and a prospect. Which I prefer over Zub.

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Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:24 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: MikeyG420

You might as well rebuild if you want futures . And Zub is also worth a 1st and a good prospect . And he’s the perfect fit next to Hughes no matter what u say. He’s not a low end #4D he’s more of a top pairing support guy

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.

SensFanFromTO

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I don't see Ottawa ever able to unload the Murray contract. Remainder of season is his tryout. I foresee a I buyout in offseason unfortunately if he doesn't shine rest of season. Last night's game didn't help.

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: Artsnurg

I would not buy him out . Dumb move

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

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SensFanFromTO

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Quoting: csick

I would not buy him out . Dumb move

Melnyk is cheap... and dumb

Mar. 6, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Artsnurg

Melnyk is cheap... and dumb

Buy him out makes us pay him longer and can mess with our cap in a few years when we need it

Mar. 6, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.

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Fotiu4U

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Very easy NO from the Rangers.

Mar. 6, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Fotiu4U

Very easy NO from the Rangers.

Well that’s Browns value doesn’t have to be to the Rangers. Also Rangers yuck

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Mar. 6, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.

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Fotiu4U

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Quoting: csick

Well that’s Browns value doesn’t have to be to the Rangers. Also Rangers yuck

That's his value according to you, which mean nada. If only the Rangers could be as good as the Sens.

Mar. 7, 2022 at 3:05 a.m.

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mike384

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Why's there's such a difference in value between Paul and Sanford? Aren't they quite similar?

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