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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
we will see how far they go without heisky for the foreseeable future. he is their defense. leaning on lindell suter etc gunna be tough down the stretch. although the west is wide wide open.


Oh absolutely.

But in a sense I kinda want to think this is a challenge that could grow them as a team.

When Miro comes back, if they're still in, I think it makes them stronger as a team. And considering we're likely about to face the Avs we are going against a better opponent on paper, so we need to rely on momentum and team work to challenge them.
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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Trade him please 🙏


Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Trade him please 🙏



Market is inflated.
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan





Not really surprised, he either bounces back or he doesn't and likely his last Leaf game.


Why do I have a feeling he's gonna go Hutchinson against NYI or Edmomton mode

Where we panic and then he walks away with either a shutout or above .900sv
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Market is inflated.


Your worth a 1st
Your worth a 1st

Everyone is worth a 1st

Man gonna be a quiet TDL
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Market is inflated.


His value will never be higher. The isles have 3 top pair Defenseman, they have an opportunity to sell high on a #4 defenseman exiting his prime. It has to be done
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Your worth a 1st
Your worth a 1st

Everyone is worth a 1st

Man gonna be a quiet TDL


My first deadline on this website and this happens
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Your worth a 1st
Your worth a 1st

Everyone is worth a 1st

Man gonna be a quiet TDL


Yep, seems like every GM's want a 1st for their players, and it's a sellers market too
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Yep, seems like every GM's want a 1st for their players, and it's a sellers market too


Imo 6ths over 1sts


Jk
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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Farewell
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Market is inflated.


Everything's inflated in America right now tears of joy
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Everything's inflated in America right now tears of joy


What a time to be alive
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
🥲

And it turned into Wyatt who is lighting it up


Detroit traded up to get cossa
IMO that's even worse
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Detroit traded up to get cossa
IMO that's even worse


🥲
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
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5.5m for pavelski with a 500k bonus for games played thats such a solid extension.
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.
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Can the Leafs afford to lose any of the space they're garnering from the expiration of the Kessel buyout to a Mrazek buyout? Cash-wise I know it's not a problem but there are a LOT of 2022-23 AGMs that run within spitting distance of the cap ceiling.

Korpisalo makes sense as an upgrade in the sense that he at least knows the approximate GPS location of his crease and net and the ease at which Columbus can accommodate the Mrazek buyout. Yes, it's change for the sake of change. All Korpisalo should cost is a 4th round pick and dumping Mrazek a 2nd round pick. It's a total loss from a business perspective but addition via subtraction can just as easily set the net straight. We know that draft picks mean nothing to today's Leafs.

I don't subscribe to Fleury being an option: I think he's one of those players, especially after the Vegas situation, has enough tenure to dictate whether or not he's moved at the deadline. I think Kallgren gets the outdoor game but the "viable" options right now are Forsberg, Georgiev, Jones, Korpisalo, and Khudobin. I fully believe that of those 5 names, only three of those teams can afford to take Mrazek back, and if you're in the realm of 2 or 3 trades to address one position then you've lost the plot.


My targets would be:
Eric Comrie
Anton Forsberg
Connor Ingram
Anthony Stolarz
Charlie Lindgren
Ilya Samsonov
edit:
Spencer Martin

I will be shocked if anyone takes Mrázek without the Leafs giving up a lot.
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
My targets would be:
Eric Comrie
Anton Forsberg
Connor Ingram
Anthony Stolarz
Charlie Lindgren
Ilya Samsonov
edit:
Spencer Martin

I will be shocked if anyone takes Mrázek without the Leafs giving up a lot.


Jake Allen?
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Jake Allen?


If you wanna take back Mrázek, sure
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
If you wanna take back Mrázek, sure


Allen for 2nd + hirvonen + mrazek?
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Allen for 2nd + hirvonen + mrazek?


That's just it, I'd rather the Leafs just buy him out than waste picks/prospects on trading him. And it's not that I dislike Allen, outside of this year he has been pretty consistent.

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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:46 p.m.
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That's just it, I'd rather the Leafs just buy him out than waste picks/prospects on trading him. And it's not that I dislike Allen, outside of this year he has been pretty consistent.

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I agree, he's been on the worst team in league this year, and putting up okay numbers. With st. Luis he's been great. IMO:
Allen = 2nd + 3rd
Mrazek = 3rd to dump.
3rd + 3rd = hirvonen
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I agree, he's been on the worst team in league this year, and putting up okay numbers. With st. Luis he's been great. IMO:
Allen = 2nd + 3rd
Mrazek = 3rd to dump.
3rd + 3rd = hirvonen


Yup, will be interesting to see what happens. Glad I am not in Kyle's shoes.
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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I have this nagging feeling that we're going to see smaller amount of Russian prospects get drafted in the next draft(s), and the most skilled ones are going to be drafted much later in the draft. Simply because there's no guarantee US as a nation is willing to issue visas for these players as part of the sanctions caused by the war in Ukraine.

I mean if I was a GM I'd have to seriously consider if I'd ever be willing to draft players that might be unable to play for me in the foreseeable future.

I could be wrong though. But given that the sanctions get tougher and tougher almost on a daily basis, I think at some point they will start affecting athletes representing Russia as well.

As for the Russians already playing in NHL - I think we're going to see more of them applying for US citizenship now. That way they wouldn't have to worry about those visas.
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.
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I have this nagging feeling that we're going to see smaller amount of Russian prospects get drafted in the next draft(s), and the most skilled ones are going to be drafted much later in the draft. Simply because there's no guarantee US as a nation is willing to issue visas for these players as part of the sanctions caused by the war in Ukraine.

I mean if I was a GM I'd have to seriously consider if I'd ever be willing to draft players that might be unable to play for me in the foreseeable future.

I could be wrong though. But given that the sanctions get tougher and tougher almost on a daily basis, I think at some point they will start affecting athletes representing Russia as well.

As for the Russians already playing in NHL - I think we're going to see more of them applying for US citizenship now. That way they wouldn't have to worry about those visas.


That's already been started by some
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Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.
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Yup, will be interesting to see what happens. Glad I am not in Kyle's shoes.


I think Mrazek will be moved next offseason, either to NJ or ARI. Both of these teams have cap space and need goalies.

Leafs are probably bringing in a completely new tandem for next year, most likely consisting of UFA goalies.

Watch them rocking a Holtby-Lankinen tandem next year lol.
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