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Cap maneuver

Created by: SimonSelaars3
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 7, 2022
Published: Mar. 7, 2022
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So the Weber thing took me forever to grasp, from what I understand, Weber likely won’t retire considering he would still get paid on LTIR but the NHL can recognize that he will never be able to play again and therefor the Wild would be able to spend as far past the cap as Webers annual cap hit which is 7,857,143.

So…

7,857,143 + 81,500,000 = 89,357,143 (amount of cap space we would have)

Bettman has also said the cap will be going up $1,000,000 in the 2022-2023 season, so we would actually have $90,357,143.

The whole situation is weird but from what I read, that is what would happen. A similar situation happened with Chris Pronger I’m pretty sure.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$900,000
7$7,000,000
3$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,750,000
3$1,300,000
6$8,750,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Weber, Shea
Additional Details:
For some reason acquiring Webers contract would actually give us cap relief over the next 4 years, I think everyone is assuming he will probably never play again.
MTL
  1. Khovanov, Alexander
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. Pinto, Shane
  2. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Top 10 protected
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin
3.
MIN
  1. Lavoie, Raphael
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Greenway, Jordan
  2. Talbot, Cam
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$90,357,143$86,307,754$0$2,132,500$4,049,389
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
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Waivers ExemptRossi, Marco
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 3
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Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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Boldy, Matthew
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Pinto, Shane
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
Hertl, Tomas
$8,750,000$8,750,000
C
UFA - 8
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Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 7
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Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Dewar, Connor
$900,000$900,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Duhaime, Brandon
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Lindholm, Hampus
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
UFA - 8
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Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Kähkönen, Kaapo
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Merrill, Jon
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Addison, Calen
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 1
Lankinen, Kevin
$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Shaw, Mason
$750,000$750,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Weber, Shea
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 4
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Kulikov, Dmitry
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Mermis, Dakota
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:44 a.m.
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Minnesota shouldn't take the risk that NHL will approve anything helping Minnesota. Greenway can't be traded. A contract extension doesn't begin until the next season begins. There's a million reasons why teams don't do this
Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:48 a.m.
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This isn't how it works unfortunately. The LTIR benefit (additional cap room) is already accounted for when you put them on LTIR on this website.

The way you have it is double counting the cap relief.
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Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:48 a.m.
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There's already talk that Minnesota will probably have to move Fiala due to their upcoming cap crunch. And you honestly think they can afford both Hertl and Lindholm? And Lindholm will get more then what you're offering. Hertl probably in the $8,000,000 on a 7 yr deal and Lindholm probably 7 x $7,500,000 good luck with that.
Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:52 a.m.
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And where are you coming up with Minnesota and $90,000,000 in salary cap? They basically have less then $10,000,000 in cap to sign like 7 players.. These next 3 years are serious cap crunch with the buyouts of Parise and Suter. Sorry dude but Shea Weber on LTIR doesn't give you extra in salary cap that's not how it works. You're still screwed here big time cap wise for the next 3 years or so.
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Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:56 a.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
There's already talk that Minnesota will probably have to move Fiala due to their upcoming cap crunch. And you honestly think they can afford both Hertl and Lindholm? And Lindholm will get more then what you're offering. Hertl probably in the $8,000,000 on a 7 yr deal and Lindholm probably 7 x $7,500,000 good luck with that.


Yes I do sir
Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:57 a.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
And where are you coming up with Minnesota and $90,000,000 in salary cap? They basically have less then $10,000,000 in cap to sign like 7 players.. These next 3 years are serious cap crunch with the buyouts of Parise and Suter.


Cap maneuver with Webers contract
Mar. 7, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
This isn't how it works unfortunately. The LTIR benefit (additional cap room) is already accounted for when you put them on LTIR on this website.

The way you have it is double counting the cap relief.


It doesn’t account for it I’ve looked it up like 10 times
Mar. 7, 2022 at 2:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Wildnochance
Minnesota shouldn't take the risk that NHL will approve anything helping Minnesota. Greenway can't be traded. A contract extension doesn't begin until the next season begins. There's a million reasons why teams don't do this


Okay?
Mar. 7, 2022 at 2:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
Cap maneuver with Webers contract


You can't add Webers LTIR to your salary cap that's not how it works, And you only get benefits if you spend right up to the cap or go over slightly.
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Mar. 7, 2022 at 2:13 a.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
You can't add Webers LTIR to your salary cap that's not how it works, And you only get benefits if you spend right up to the cap or go over slightly.


Okay TampaBayLightning22 smile
Mar. 7, 2022 at 2:17 a.m.
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Doubt we see Edmonton revisit Talbot. Apparently Oilers fans harasses his wife or something.
Mar. 7, 2022 at 2:19 a.m.
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Quoting: SmokeAndBeer
Doubt we see Edmonton revisit Talbot. Apparently Oilers fans harasses his wife or something.


Thats F’d up
Mar. 7, 2022 at 5:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
This isn't how it works unfortunately. The LTIR benefit (additional cap room) is already accounted for when you put them on LTIR on this website.

The way you have it is double counting the cap relief.


Quoting: Hockeyman1208
It doesn’t account for it I’ve looked it up like 10 times


Put Weber into the scratch column and you’ll see the team cap amount go up. His cap hit automatically comes out when you put him in LTIR, so you still need to stay under your projected $82,5MM cap
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Mar. 7, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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Here's my thought on Weber. Folks are assuming he is gonna on LTIR for four full more seasons. Maybe he does a "Louango" Lou retired. He didn't think it was worth all the effort to do the severe rehab to get stay on LTIR. So he retired instead and his front loaded contract invoked the recapture penalties. Weber is owed "just" 6m on his remaining four years. Maybe he thinks it's just better to retire and rehab and rest on his own schedule.
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Mar. 7, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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If you consider what Dmen have been signing for the last couple years (Nurse, Hamilton, Jones etc.) Lindholm will get 8M + on his next contract
Mar. 7, 2022 at 10:39 a.m.
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Pretty sure this cap maneuver idea has been debunked.


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