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The cup

Created by: nhl_insider_maybe
Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 9, 2022
Published: Mar. 9, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
  2. Ranta, Sampo
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (COL)
2.
COL
CHI
    Kuemper is a good goalie, but I think MAF will be more solid in the playoffs
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2022 5th round pick (COL)
    Additional Details:
    Getting the cap relief
    4.
    COL
    1. 2022 6th round pick (ARI)
    5.
    PHI
    1. Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    2. Beaucage, Alex
    3. Olausson, Oskar
    4. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
    5. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    Logo of the ARI
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    2023
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    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    2024
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$77,506,463$1,741,463$3,562,500$3,993,537
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $6,300,000$6,300,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $9,250,000$9,250,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,900,000$4,900,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    $4,137,500$4,137,500
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $725,000$725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    RD
    RFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $750,000$750,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Mar. 9, 2022 at 4:26 a.m.
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    PHI will get a better offer.

    And why would they want NAK back?
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    Mar. 9, 2022 at 5:55 a.m.
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    Thats not how LTIR works (Weber) and if it would indeed works like you think it is, acquiring 8 millions in cap space would cost a first +, not a fifth
    Mar. 9, 2022 at 6:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: math731
    Thats not how LTIR works (Weber) and if it would indeed works like you think it is, acquiring 8 millions in cap space would cost a first +, not a fifth


    I honestly don't know how it works, Cause There are people saying that LTIR room has no advantage other than not using cap on an injured player, and others say that it does what I did on this. Also didn't Brent Seabrook get traded for a 2nd and a roster player for the LTIR? There probably is an advantage somewhere
    Mar. 9, 2022 at 6:39 a.m.
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    Quoting: nhl_insider_maybe
    I honestly don't know how it works, Cause There are people saying that LTIR room has no advantage other than not using cap on an injured player, and others say that it does what I did on this. Also didn't Brent Seabrook get traded for a 2nd and a roster player for the LTIR? There probably is an advantage somewhere


    All it cost is money. It doesn;t cost against the cap, but you can acquire assets for paying somebody to sit at home. TB has won back to back titles so they have cash NOW, but took Seabrook in exchange to replenish their picks.

    A team like TOR is rich, but can only PLAY 81.5mil worth of players, doesn;t mean they cant acquire a LTIR who wont play again in exchange for assets. Thats why only rich or currently rich teams or teams lacking futures will take an LTIR.

    The other side is IR players, like BUF took Johnny Boychuk on IR, because they needed his cap hit to hit the cap floor. They haven;t moved him to LTIR, because they NEED the cap hit.
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    Mar. 9, 2022 at 7:52 a.m.
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    Habs Say Yes
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    Mar. 9, 2022 at 9:24 a.m.
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    this is just awful.
    You cant do that with webers contract, Kuemper is the better goalie, MAF is not worth downgrading while giving up more assets
    EJ is not waiving and hes not a negative asset. A worse DMan in Duncan Keith got a 3rd round pick and a young Dman back
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    Mar. 9, 2022 at 9:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    this is just awful.
    You cant do that with webers contract, Kuemper is the better goalie, MAF is not worth downgrading while giving up more assets
    EJ is not waiving and hes not a negative asset. A worse DMan in Duncan Keith got a 3rd round pick and a young Dman back


    I agree with you with Kuemper, hes better. But He doesn't have playoff success, and we need to win this year. MAF had a similar team in pittsburg, and he comfortably landed 2 cups. He's older and a little less good, but he has that experience. EJ is also good, but probably not tradable for the contract he has.
    Mar. 9, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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    There is so much just wrong here. COL would have to fit Weber under the cap then place him on LTIR then they could use the space. So that doesn’t happen. EJ has an NMC so that doesn’t happen. Kuemper has been better than MAF, and Sakic gave up a 1st and a top D prospect for him, so he’s through half a season going to jettison him. Yeah that’s not happening. And the Giroux trade doesn’t work because the other lame brained schemes don’t work.
    Mar. 9, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: nhl_insider_maybe
    I agree with you with Kuemper, hes better. But He doesn't have playoff success, and we need to win this year. MAF had a similar team in pittsburg, and he comfortably landed 2 cups. He's older and a little less good, but he has that experience. EJ is also good, but probably not tradable for the contract he has.


    MAF greatest myth maybe his playoff success. No cup wins in Vegas, and in the last 2 SC wins in PIT he wasn’t the goalie who closed it out it was Murray. But everybody loves the other guy especially if he is old and has a back story.
    Mar. 9, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hammerwise
    PHI will get a better offer.

    And why would they want NAK back?


    Right lol
     
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