Guerin say no to this. He's prepared to lose jack mcBain to free agency if he doesn't get a 2nd round pick. He's apparently isn't going to give jack mcBain what he wants

You're asking way too much for Kerfoot and especially Nylander.

The Islanders do not want Dermot.

And how exactly is overpaying for Nylander helping Vancouver?

Drop Hoglander and the 2nd, and the 4th. If was just Garland and Schenn for Nylander then it would be fair.

And the asking price for McBain is a 2nd round pick.

Hoglander would be nasty on that third line

Roy is not available this season, period. Outside of Doughty (who is injured right now), he's the only right-handed defenseman available for the playoffs with over 50 NHL games under his belt. When Doughty was out for 2 months earlier this season, Roy took over as LA's #1 defenseman.

They won't trade him under any circumstances. LA is looking to compete this year. The Kings are buyers, not sellers.

There's a reason why you guys are so desperate to get Matt Roy -- and that's exactly why we're not selling.

If i was Lou, I'd accept to strengthen our defense, LET THE YOUNG PEOPLE PLAY!

Josh Bailey won't be our extra attacker for long!!

Nylander's contract is a bargin and he actually shows up in the playoffs I think it would be a mistake to trade him.

If Garland and Schenn is worth Nylander than Kerfoot and Holl is worth Petterson. Kerfoot is out performing Garland and makes around 1.5 less and Holl is better than Schenn.

Leaf fans are supposed to be the only fans who grossly overestimate their players value. Stay in your lane.

I kinda laugh when someone says the Leafs have to rebuild after a first round exit, but then they sign Campbell to a long term deal. Wouldn't the goalie that doesn't get you to the second round, be the first guys that isn't resigned?
Muzzin isn't worth his contract and his MMC makes him untradeable
That's an easy no from Vancouver for two years of Nylander

"Listen, I know LA fans love this guy and say that he's not going to be traded for a while"

Just stop there. LA fans have just a bit more of an idea of what the Kings plans are for Roy. Anything else you're adding on is a Leaf's fans narrative that is deliberately ignoring constructive criticism you, along with multiple other Leafs fans, have been told many times.

Kings aren't building through draft picks anymore, especially not to drop their best defensive defenseman. A late 1st 2 drafts down the road means nothing to LA. Holl would fall past AHL level talent for the Kings in terms of their RD depth chart. And Villanueve would fall even lower than that!

They are in the hunt not only for a wild card, but for tops in their division. Kings won't be selling. Full stop.

Garland and Schenn for Nylander is not a fair deal...
It would have to be Garland + Hoglander to be fair value, but Nucks fans wouldn't go for that apparently so this deal is a hard no

I'd easily do Garland and Hoglander, just not teh extra Schenn and the 2nd

Ok. I appreciate that you said that. I was beginning to think Nucks fans were nuts

Hence why this is for next year and not this year.

Here's my question though cause i do want your opinion on this. Since everyone saying roy isnt being traded, do you think either of durzi or walker can play 2nd pairing for the leafs next season?

Would you do Garland, Hoglander and Schenn for Nylander and a 3rd?

Like I said, duncan keith got something with no retention. Muzzin was atleast a top 20 dman in the league last year. He's having a down year but acting like he isn't an amazing dman when at his best is wrong. He's also the exact sort of guy you want in the playoffs, so some gm is gonna bite for sure. As for the nmc, thats always up to the players so im not gonna discuss that too much.

I asked someone else this too so I wanna know your opinion on this as well. Since y'all clearly arent trading roy, im guessing sooner than later, one of durzi or walker is gone. My question is, do you think either of those guys can be 2nd pairing dman by next season? Because if they can then id like for the leafs to target them. Also what would be their value. Thanks for your response.

Yall really gotta get some youth in that team.

My question though is that is he really bluffing? Say there's like 3 days left until mcbain becomes a ufa, and he gets a 3rd from the leafs, where mcbain wants to go. Does he not take that third instead of losing him for nothing?

I would as a Canucks fan. As from the Leafs' perspective, not so much

Durzi definitely. He's already our QB on the second-unit power play. Which, given our PP, isn't saying much . . . but still . . .

Pretty sure all, if not an overwhelmingly majority of those trades are rejected