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just how I think their deadline will shape out

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Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 10, 2022
Published: Mar. 10, 2022
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THIS IS NOT THE VALUE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE JUST WHAT I THINK COULD HAPPEN
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26$81,500,000$74,190,594$0$7,950,000$7,309,406
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UFA - 1
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Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:02 a.m.
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Deal!! 😁😁
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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Habs could get more making separate trades.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Habs could get more making separate trades.


i think this is the exact kind of deal Hughes would make.

two NHL ready prospects, a roster player and a pick. He gets a little bit of everything.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
i think this is the exact kind of deal Hughes would make.

two NHL ready prospects, a roster player and a pick. He gets a little bit of everything.


Then he leaves value on the table.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Then he leaves value on the table.


thanks Rob
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Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:22 a.m.
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I feel like the priority should be bottom 6 C and bottom 6 RW. I still believe in Chytil but he has not yet solidified himself as he 3C. Gauthier is nearly invisible and Hunt should really be on the 4th line when Kakko is back, so the Rangers need help on the wing for the third line.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
i think this is the exact kind of deal Hughes would make.

two NHL ready prospects, a roster player and a pick. He gets a little bit of everything.


I agree and would take this deal, maybe we could get more for them separately but it wouldn't be much more IMO
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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Rangers should be getting more for Nils and Krav
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:36 a.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Then he leaves value on the table.


how much value? quantify this for the audience.
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Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
how much value? quantify this for the audience.


at least a 1st +.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
at least a 1st +.


let's break it down:
Chariot = ?
Lehkonen = ?
Allen = ?

Also, let's assume no retention, the Rangers don't need it.
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Mar. 10, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.
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Not so sure why people keep trading away Kravstov. First we all know about the situation in Russia. Second the Habs don’t have any need for a winger at the moment. They have Byron, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher, Caufield, Drouin, and Pitlick (I assume they sign him back RFA) who all got term left after this season. that leave one spot that will likely be handed to either Harvey Pinard or Ylonen.
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Mar. 10, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
let's break it down:
Chariot = ?
Lehkonen = ?
Allen = ?

Also, let's assume no retention, the Rangers don't need it.


Rumoured returns:
Chiarot = 1st, 3rd
Lehkonen = 1st, B prospect
Allen = havent seen a rumour yet. I wouldnt trade him for any less than a 2nd + B Prospect

Kravtsov and Lundqvist are 1st round picks, from 4 drafts ago. Lundqvist value is same or maybe slightly higher than a late first, Kravstov's value is lower + Russia situation right now.
Nemeth adds no value to Montreal

So arguably, the deal is missing value equivalent to 3rd, 2 B prospects
Mar. 10, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Rumoured returns:
Chiarot = 1st, 3rd
Lehkonen = 1st, B prospect
Allen = havent seen a rumour yet. I wouldnt trade him for any less than a 2nd + B Prospect

Kravtsov and Lundqvist are 1st round picks, from 4 drafts ago. Lundqvist value is same or maybe slightly higher than a late first, Kravstov's value is lower + Russia situation right now.
Nemeth adds no value to Montreal

So arguably, the deal is missing value equivalent to 3rd, 2 B prospects


i'm glad you said arguably because your above assessment is BEST case scenario.
3rd line wingers don't pull 1st round picks.
let's see how this one ages.
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Mar. 10, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i'm glad you said arguably because your above assessment is BEST case scenario.
3rd line wingers don't pull 1st round picks.
let's see how this one ages.


Coleman and Goodrow both brought in 1st round picks.

But yeah, we'll see. I think as a package, we get less than selling them separately.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i'm glad you said arguably because your above assessment is BEST case scenario.
3rd line wingers don't pull 1st round picks.
let's see how this one ages.


I don't disagree with you at all, Lehkonen is a third line winger - a good one, but a third liner nonetheless.

He doesn't have the size of Goodrow or the tenacity (he's tenacious but a different kind of tenacious) of Coleman - similar to Janmark. They all got good returns, so we will have to see.

I agree with you, we'll have to see how this one ages.
Mar. 10, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Coleman and Goodrow both brought in 1st round picks.

But yeah, we'll see. I think as a package, we get less than selling them separately.


Coleman and Goodrow both had an extra year and that AAV was a 3x underpay which made them more valuable. At the very least, Lehkonen is RFA but a 1st is too much. It was also a late first.
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Coleman and Goodrow both had an extra year and that AAV was a 3x underpay which made them more valuable. At the very least, Lehkonen is RFA but a 1st is too much. It was also a late first.


any first for Lehkonen would also be a late first. Lehkonen is RFA so they get his rights. He is arguably better than Coleman, definitely better than Goodrow, especially at that age.
Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
any first for Lehkonen would also be a late first. Lehkonen is RFA so they get his rights. He is arguably better than Coleman, definitely better than Goodrow, especially at that age.


Still, a 1x$1.8M deal over RFA rights is worth more since Lehkonen wil likely sign for $3M+.
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