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The JT Miller Trade

Created by: jassan28
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 10, 2022
Published: Mar. 10, 2022
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. 2023 4th round pick (BOS)
  3. 2024 6th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Garland, Conor ($950,000 retained)
Buyouts
  • Braden Holtby: $500,000
  • Jake Virtanen: $50,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • J.T. Miller: $2,625,000 (50%)
  • Conor Garland: $950,000 (19.19%)
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$74,035,659$648,780$5,400,000$7,464,341
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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Boeser, Brock
$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Pearson, Tanner
$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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Chiasson, Alex
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Motte, Tyler
$1,225,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Dickinson, Jason
$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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Lysell, Fabian
$925,000
RW
RFA - 4
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Podkolzin, Vasily
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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Lammikko, Juho
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Höglander, Nils
$891,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Rempal, Sheldon
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Highmore, Matthew
$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 6
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Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Halák, Jaroslav
$1,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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Hunt, Brad
$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Bowey, Madison
$725,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Burroughs, Kyle
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Poolman, Tucker
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Sutter, Brandon
$1,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Keeper, Brady
$762,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Mar. 10 at 4:13 p.m.
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rangers and boston happily say no
Mar. 10 at 4:13 p.m.
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Miller with retention is worth way more than that trade.
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Mar. 10 at 4:14 p.m.
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Boston declines. They can just bring Lysell up and voila… Garland but a higher ceiling.
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Mar. 10 at 4:16 p.m.
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Unless the rangers have internally decided that Lafreniere stinks, they’re saying no.

Boston is definitely saying no.
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Mar. 10 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Miller with retention is worth way more than that trade.

Get outta here.
Mar. 10 at 4:17 p.m.
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Unless the rangers have internally decided that Lafreniere stinks, they’re saying no.

Boston is definitely saying no.


Can i decide for them?
Mar. 10 at 4:22 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Get outta here.


Great commentary. How about an actual argument. If Zadina is a bust (which he isn't) then Lafreniere is a colossal bust. Rangers fans have been going on about how he's getting better but he's on a worse scoring pace than last year with an unsustainable shooting percentage. The retention alone is worth a 1st. Miller's a point a game player who plays all three positions. And that pick will be near the end of the round.
Mar. 10 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Great commentary. How about an actual argument. If Zadina is a bust (which he isn't) then Lafreniere is a colossal bust. Rangers fans have been going on about how he's getting better but he's on a worse scoring pace than last year with an unsustainable shooting percentage. The retention alone is worth a 1st. Miller's a point a game player who plays all three positions. And that pick will be near the end of the round.


well for starters zadina is 2 years older. And lafreniere just got moved up to the first line about 10 games ago and has been great
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Mar. 10 at 4:27 p.m.
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well for starters zadina is 2 years older. And lafreniere just got moved up to the first line about 10 games ago and has been great


They've played almost the same amount of games. And Zadina got 4 whole games on the first line of a much worse team.
Mar. 10 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
They've played almost the same amount of games. And Zadina got 4 whole games on the first line of a much worse team.


Doesn't matter how many games they played hes still 2 years younger. Lets see what lafreniere is putting up when hes 22
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Mar. 10 at 4:29 p.m.
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Quoting: AdamFox
Rangers block van number


You must be thinking of TJ MIller. Lol.
Mar. 10 at 4:29 p.m.
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Doesn't matter how many games they played hes still 2 years younger. Lets see what lafreniere is putting up when hes 22


Sure bud. See ya then...
Mar. 10 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Get outta here.


So what is a player who’s top 10 in points this season, top 15 the last 3 seasons, who plays all 3 forward positions and special teams, with retention to 2.625M for this season and next worth? Because Lafreniere has not looked very good
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Mar. 10 at 4:48 p.m.
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If you are asking Laf, better be offering Pettersson+
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Mar. 10 at 4:53 p.m.
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So what is a player who’s top 10 in points this season, top 15 the last 3 seasons, who plays all 3 forward positions and special teams, with retention to 2.625M for this season and next worth? Because Lafreniere has not looked very good


It’s just not the kind of prospect/young player that gets moved for a year and a couple months of a player.
Mar. 10 at 4:53 p.m.
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Quoting: AFox23
If you are asking Laf, better be offering Pettersson+

Well, no, lafreniere has stunk,
Mar. 10 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Great commentary. How about an actual argument. If Zadina is a bust (which he isn't) then Lafreniere is a colossal bust. Rangers fans have been going on about how he's getting better but he's on a worse scoring pace than last year with an unsustainable shooting percentage. The retention alone is worth a 1st. Miller's a point a game player who plays all three positions. And that pick will be near the end of the round.


Whaaaaat? First off, yes. Zadina is a bust. He’s in his fourth year of professional hockey, and he stinks. That’s a bust for a 6th overall pick.

Teams don’t give up players like lafreniere in their second year of pro for a rental-plus.

No skin in the game here. I don’t like any of the three teams mentioned, this just seems obvious.
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Mar. 10 at 4:57 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
It’s just not the kind of prospect/young player that gets moved for a year and a couple months of a player.


A year and a couple of months for a Top 10 point-getter that carries a team on his back. JT Millers > players like Landeskog, Tkachuk, Nylander, etc
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Mar. 10 at 4:58 p.m.
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Can i decide for them?


No, and in his second year of pro, you would be foolish to make up your own mind.
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Mar. 10 at 5:16 p.m.
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They've played almost the same amount of games. And Zadina got 4 whole games on the first line of a much worse team.


Ya. Because he sucks.
Mar. 10 at 5:17 p.m.
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A year and a couple of months for a Top 10 point-getter that carries a team on his back. JT Millers > players like Landeskog, Tkachuk, Nylander, etc

Did you not read what i wrote? If you didn’t, my response to this is exactly what i said before.
Mar. 10 at 5:17 p.m.
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Miller is worth more
Just don’t trade him at this point
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Mar. 10 at 6:01 p.m.
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If you are asking Laf, better be offering Pettersson+


If you are asking for Pettersson, you better be offering Fox
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Mar. 10 at 6:09 p.m.
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Ya. Because he sucks.


Always the clown. Not surprising. You have no argument as per usual.
Mar. 10 at 6:14 p.m.
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Always the clown. Not surprising. You have no argument as per usual.


Why would i launch into some sort of deep analysis? Is that what you want? It just really seems like what you’re saying is, “zadina isn’t a bust because he was drafted by my favorite team, so I’m going to stick my head in the sand and pretend he’s been good.” He’s stunk! The world knows it. He has four pro years, and hasn’t really been able to do anything. Heck, he didn’t exactly rip up the AHL.

It’s okay dude. Guys don’t pan out. My favorite team has plenty of busts. Think I’m gonna say the bruins 2015 draft turned out stellar? No. It sucked.
 
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