My oh my. That Chicago trade lol

I'm 99% sure that the vast majority of Leafs fans didn't know who Duszak was until he was brought up earlier this week, and now, after seeing his point totals, without them even seeing him,he has suddenly become a top prospect, who has "immense value".

Weird that a team that has struggled with their depth defensively this year hasn't called him up, or, is it because he's Jeremy Bracco on defence?

change duszak to chicago's choice of robertson or knies.

Fleury wants to remain in Chicago and the Hawks already said they will respect his wishes and let him play out his contract. Therefore you can cross him off the list of available goalies.

He also said he wants to win another cup. Not sure CHI is in the position to do that.

There are conflicting reports coming out of Chicago this week on that. One beat writer made that statement last weekend, another beat writer contradicting that statement earlier this week.

Even then I doubt Chicago agrees...

Flowers (retained) = Mrazek + 1st at a minimum as Mrazek is a pretty big cap dump to a rebuilding team...they don't need a backup goalie
Hagel = 1st + Knies or Robertson (and I still doubt Chicago moves him)

i cant see fleury being too eager to have the chance of a leafs 1st round exit blamed on him.

hard pass by the hawks

Agreed, all the reports out of Chicago is that Flower is not going to accept a trade to TOR

i dont see hagel having that kind of value. 1st + but not a top prospect.

I am equally amazed that the majority of fans who claim to be leaf fans continue to use the 2023 3rd round pick for trading purposes when it is already a conditional pick for Arizona.

Hawks already turned down 4 offers of a 1st and "good" prospect and one of those teams was Toronto. Clearly, the Hawks aren't shopping Hagel and are not inclined to move him for a 1st and "good" prospect so it would take more to intrigue Chicago.

I agree Hagel is not worth a 1st and top prospect all things being equal but they aren't equal, Hawks want to keep the kid and teams are trying pry him away.

whats the source on that?

Multiple reports on it...Frank Seravalli seems to have the inside track on this one as well as Darron Dregor

"Frank Seravalli listed Brandon Hagel at the fourth spot. He then went on to note that the Chicago Blackhawks are looking for a first-round pick and top prospect for the young forward. Although one may assume that this asking price would immediately scare teams away, that happens to not be the case. He confirmed that multiple teams have called about the winger, so there is clear interest around the league."

Here's some articles...

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/blackhawks_want_a_huge_haul_in_any_brandon_hagel_trade/s1_16454_37285415

https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/02/14/report-blackhawks-have-received-big-offers-for-brandon-hagel-but-dont-want-to-trade-him/

https://nhltradetalk.com/blackhawks-being-offered-huge-return-for-brandon-hagel/

that only seems to indicate teams are calling not that anyone offered a 1st + good prospect. i believe seravalli and dreger but are those other source reliable.

He doesn't really offer anything the Leafs need. It's not that he's bad. Looks like a PP specialist but a talented player. Of course though, fools will blow up everything on here.

What someone asks for and what they will get are often not the same. If Hagel is worth a top prospect and a 1st. Kerfoot is easily worth a 1st. Since they are similar players.

Also one of the guys from the Chicago Sun Times and The Athletic confirmed this based on their sources that a 1st and prospect have been offered and turned down...I can't find those sources but all have surfaced in the last few weeks. The Athletic went on to say that there is only a 5% chance that the Hawks end up moving Hagel unless that prospect is so high end it forces their hands

You're missing the point, the Hawks aren't shopping him and therefore "aren't asking for something" all they are doing is turning down multiple offers that have included a 1st and prospect...that's it. In fact, The Athletic who has two of the best Hawks beat writers specifically said, 5% chance Hagel gets moved...someone will have to force their hand with a top prospect that is just too good to pass up otherwise there is no reason for the Hawks to move Hagel.

Hard to compare Kerfoot. You have a 23 year old player that is exponentially getting better with a $1.5M cap hit for 2 more seasons and then an RFA. Additionally, right now nobody knows the ceiling on Hagel. Kerfoot is a very different situation.

Yeah, I mean he's likely a fringy NHLer, it just makes me chuckle. Cheers!

You need to add too much to that deal to get Chicago to bite. Mrazek has negative value, Engvall is a fine roster player but doesn't move the needle as an asset, and Duszak is a 5'9", 24 year old RHD who hasn't played well enough in the AHL to surpass the Lilljegrens, Holls, and Dermotts of the world. You need to add a better prospect and probably another 2nd to make this deal work.

I don't see his game being worth that much. He's a good player but he's like so many other middle 6 wingers, in the right situation they can flourish but on their own they are limited. Like Kerfoot, or Hyman or Bunting. All good players but not worth what people think.

Yeah I agree. Could do well in the right situation but outside of that he's likely not an everyday player.

I won't argue with that however unlike those guys, it's a 23 year old with a 1 1/2 years under his belt and his game is getting exponentially better every 20 games...nobody knows what his ceiling is but this is highly unlikely his ceiling unlike Hyman Kerfoot or Bunting. Add to a $1.5M cap hit for 2 more seasons and a RFA after that...it's clear he has more value then the guys you mentioned for those reasons but debatable as to what that value is.