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Why didnt the bruins try to get Reinhart

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Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 11, 2022
Published: Mar. 11, 2022
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Obviously hindsight is 20/20 with how he’s playing this year but Reinhart should have been seriously considered by the bruins in the off-season for a team who had a huge hole at 2c
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
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      because reinharts primarily been a winger?
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: hanson493
      because reinharts primarily been a winger?


      Oh so that means he can never go back to playing center and he’d be a terrible fit between pasta and hall okay cool
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: NathanHorton
      Oh so that means he can never go back to playing center and he’d be a terrible fit between pasta and hall okay cool


      no need to get all pissy about it leon
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.
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      Oh so that means he can never go back to playing center and he’d be a terrible fit between pasta and hall okay cool


      moving pastrnak down was a last resort option for bruce. not like hes been with hall for 3 years... and yeah i mean hes still really not a center. theres more to the center position than simply playmaking. he had a 38.8 face off percentage in buffalo. now hes around 48% with florida... but hes also taken under 400 faceoffs this year. still primarily a winger for florida...

      to counter haula has take almost 600 faceoffs and is a 51% guy this year and is a 51.6% guy for his career. 2 very different statistics going into the year no?

      ide argue thats a reason that coyle failed to stick at 2c as well, hes a career sub 50% faceoff guy, realistically hes more of a winger than a center too.
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.
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      Maybe been over the cap with a 20 man roster is a good reason.
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:54 p.m.
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      Boston's price was more than Florida's I'm guessing. We didn't want to see him going there.


      Also, Taylor Hall and Boston was too stingy which must of made GMKA not want to negotiate with Sweeney anymore.
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Maybe been over the cap with a 20 man roster is a good reason.


      moore and wagner are buried you just move one of them and poof compliant.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.
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      Because you dont have any prospect equivalent to devon levi
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: hanson493
      moving pastrnak down was a last resort option for bruce. not like hes been with hall for 3 years... and yeah i mean hes still really not a center. theres more to the center position than simply playmaking. he had a 38.8 face off percentage in buffalo. now hes around 48% with florida... but hes also taken under 400 faceoffs this year. still primarily a winger for florida...

      to counter haula has take almost 600 faceoffs and is a 51% guy this year and is a 51.6% guy for his career. 2 very different statistics going into the year no?

      ide argue thats a reason that coyle failed to stick at 2c as well, hes a career sub 50% faceoff guy, realistically hes more of a winger than a center too.


      Your saying playmaking isn’t everything but basing your whole argument around face off percentage which is also not everything your ignoring the fact he’s over a point per game this year and Florida fleeced Buffalo. Also 48% on almost 400 face offs seems pretty decent to me compared to 51% haula who is a significantly worse player
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:00 p.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Maybe been over the cap with a 20 man roster is a good reason.


      Oh ya you’re right there aren’t any teams over the cap this year and trades don’t exist right?
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      Boston's price was more than Florida's I'm guessing. We didn't want to see him going there.

      Also, Taylor Hall and Boston was too stingy which must of made GMKA not want to negotiate with Sweeney anymore.


      This is the only good argument I’ve heard
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.
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      Thought about it and hope they tried. Maybe the recent Hall trade was another factor too.

      Quoting: palhal
      Maybe been over the cap with a 20 man roster is a good reason.


      Bruins had $20M in cap space on July 28. Reinhart was traded on July 24.
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.
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      Quoting: NathanHorton
      Oh ya you’re right there aren’t any teams over the cap this year and trades don’t exist right?


      Well you made the post....sure doesn't look that compliant.

      But that Foligno contract should never have been offered. I suppose that is where the could have got the $$$. Over the years Bruins have managed the cap well, but they have stumbled a bit with a few signings lately. Still they have been a top tier team for a long run.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Well you made the post....sure doesn't look that compliant.


      If Reinhart was traded for bruins probably don’t sign Haula or Foligno plus Moore takes up over 2 million in the minors the cap hit isn’t the point of this post
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.
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      Could have been Sabres liked Levi
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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      Quoting: bhavikp27
      Thought about it and hope they tried. Maybe the recent Hall trade was another factor too.

      Bruins had $20M in cap space on July 28. Reinhart was traded on July 24.


      The hall trade making Buffalo management not want to trade with the bruins is the only thing that makes sense to me, but if he was available and Sweeney went and signed Haula and Foligno instead I mean ……
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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      Quoting: NathanHorton
      If Reinhart was traded for bruins probably don’t sign Haula or Foligno plus Moore takes up over 2 million in the minors the cap hit isn’t the point of this post


      You're right, I just commented about that Foligno signing, After seeing him with the Leafs, I thought he was closer to a one year 2m deal.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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      Quoting: NathanHorton
      Your saying playmaking isn’t everything but basing your whole argument around face off percentage which is also not everything your ignoring the fact he’s over a point per game this year and Florida fleeced Buffalo. Also 48% on almost 400 face offs seems pretty decent to me compared to 51% haula who is a significantly worse player


      its not but youre entire argument is that why didnt they bring him in as a 2c... because thats not who he is as a player. thats like saying why didnt they try foligno at 2c. foligno was a center. who cares about point production if the player doesnt fit the role lol. and youre using hindsight for 48%. you asked why they didnt trade for him going in. coming into the year in buffalo his career as a center was 38.8% in the faceoff circle... WINGER. you cant expect to simply put a winger in at center and hes magically 10-15 percent better overnight. hes had a successful year in florida, good for him. no chance the bruins were putting him at 2c though.

      fwiw reinhart also isnt playing 2c for florida...
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      Boston's price was more than Florida's I'm guessing. We didn't want to see him going there.


      Also, Taylor Hall and Boston was too stingy which must of made GMKA not want to negotiate with Sweeney anymore.


      ^This is the correct answer. Same reason Eichel was never going to be traded to Boston. If Taylor Hall didn't basically hand pick Boston, the Sabres would have never traded him there. I was actually shocked that Buffalo didn't say f-that and just keep Hall for the rest of the year. That's how much they don't like trading within the division lol.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
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      I’d rather have Levi over any prospect in the Bruins system, so there’s another reason.
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.
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      ^This is the correct answer. Same reason Eichel was never going to be traded to Boston. If Taylor Hall didn't basically hand pick Boston, the Sabres would have never traded him there. I was actually shocked that Buffalo didn't say f-that and just keep Hall for the rest of the year. That's how much they don't like trading within the division lol.


      The Panthers are still in division.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.
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      Quoting: ON3M4N
      ^This is the correct answer. Same reason Eichel was never going to be traded to Boston. If Taylor Hall didn't basically hand pick Boston, the Sabres would have never traded him there. I was actually shocked that Buffalo didn't say f-that and just keep Hall for the rest of the year. That's how much they don't like trading within the division lol.


      florida is also within the division lol. really its probably more of a boston hatred.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:27 p.m.
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      Number of reasons. BUF just got fleeced in the Hall deal so there was no way they were going to make another trade with Sweeney, and Krejci/Rask were still contemplating their career path so they needed to keep their cap space. Plus he’s been predominantly a winger his entire career
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      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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      Quoting: sabresparaavida
      The Panthers are still in division.


      Yes they did and it cost FLA a 1st + Levi (who is 2nd in NCAA in SV% this year while facing the 9th most shots). There's also a difference between FLA/BOS though due to the geographical locations of each. Boston/Buffalo is more of a rivalry than Florida/Buffalo.
      Mar. 11, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.
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      Quoting: hanson493
      florida is also within the division lol. really its probably more of a boston hatred.


      and they paid a 1st + a very good goalie prospects
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