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(FLA/MTL) - Smilanic, 1st, 4th for Chiarot

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Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:20 a.m.
#101
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every other defensive buyer cursing the panthers right now
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
#102
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Who the hell was delusional enough to think Chiarot was fetching 4 first rounders???


I saw a couple, was one on here the other day expecting the Blues to give up something like a 1st, Neighbours, Bolduc and Perunovich.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Did i misunderstand the point your are trying to make? (legitemiley asking)

You misread the stats I posted.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
I saw a couple, was one on here the other day expecting the Blues to give up something like a 1st, Neighbours, Bolduc and Perunovich.


Not sure if you're speaking about me and the few other active Hab fans on this forum thread, but we were all ****ing around
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:34 a.m.
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You misread the stats I posted.


thanks for replying, i will check them out
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
I saw a couple, was one on here the other day expecting the Blues to give up something like a 1st, Neighbours, Bolduc and Perunovich.


Oh dear Lord
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Not sure if you're speaking about me and the few other active Hab fans on this forum thread, but we were all ****ing around


I don't remember who it was, I often don't even look at who made the AGM, but I don't think it was you. So I'm not specifically commenting on anyone, just tell what I saw.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:22 a.m.
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These conditions pick, always confuse me, anyway Montreal is now beginning of rebuilding team. It just going to take time to improve the team. Have fun, everyone.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: JGDD11
Yeah very strange. I do remember someone saying after the Toff trade went down that the term remaining on his contract was more of a detriment than an asset because so many potential suitors were cap-strapped batons this year


Hard to believe Toffoli’s contract would be a detriment with the way he’s produced – unlike Chiarot he’s a gift that will keep on giving – but I guess a player’s trade value is more about how many other teams are bidding for him than how much use the receiving team is going to get out of him, so you could be right. More teams can bid on a deadline rental because of the salary retention, which sellers don’t mind doing for the current season because they’ve already written it off, but they’re usually reluctant to do it beyond that. Kudos to Treliving for leaving Calgary with enough cap space to bid on Toffoli. Even if he has to trade him during the summer to sign Gaudreau, he should be able to get back something close to what he paid for him. Or maybe Gaudreau leaves and Toffoli stays.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: yycofred
wasn’t your point all along a 1st and Pelletier?? Everyone knew he’d get a first, it’s an overpay but it’s the TDL…. The constant 1st and an A prospect was what people clowned Habs fans for as they should.


We never said 1st + A prospect. Pelletier would've been instead of the 1st. All Habs fans were expecting 1st + 3rd for chiarot, and we practically got 1st + 3rd + 4th.
No way we said 1st + Pelltier
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
We never said 1st + A prospect. Pelletier would've been instead of the 1st. All Habs fans were expecting 1st + 3rd for chiarot, and we practically got 1st + 3rd + 4th.
No way we said 1st + Pelltier


I thought you blocked me? You know as well as I do that there were plenty of post with Holloway and a 1st, Pelletier and a 1st, Neighbours and a 1st, why choose to lie?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
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"Well, this is an absolute no brainer for us here in Montreal. I'm going to accept this deal before you change your mind about it." -Kent Hughes, NHL 22
Mar. 17, 2022 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: yycofred
I thought you blocked me? You know as well as I do that there were plenty of post with Holloway and a 1st, Pelletier and a 1st, Neighbours and a 1st, why choose to lie?


If people proposed that trade, I'd think of them as crazy. I probably saw a couple of those, but I mostly saw 1st + 3rd or less for chiarot. Look at my posts of acmgs, I never had more than 1st + 3rd for him.
I blocked you, but I wanted to see what you posted in this thread, and I saw you quote me, so I responded.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 11:14 a.m.
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Sup
Mar. 17, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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I thought it was a nasty overpay, but then I saw the 1st was top ten protected
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
We never said 1st + A prospect.


Actually, quite a few did.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Bob_Dole
I thought it was a nasty overpay, but then I saw the 1st was top ten protected


A pretty meaningless condition, Florida likely won;t be anywhere near the bottom 10 of the league.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Bob_Dole
I thought it was a nasty overpay, but then I saw the 1st was top ten protected


i think its this years first that buffalu owns that is protected, not the 2023 pick.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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I always knew Chiarot could fetch a 1st+ from some chump GM, but really? Bill Zito? I thought he knew better than this. If this ends up like the Savard trade did for the Lightning last season this will all be forgotten, but if not? Huge miss.

Sidenote, as a Wings fan this makes me optimistic for the potential return on Leddy
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
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I’m still scratching my head as to why Florida did this
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Mar. 18, 2022 at 6:33 a.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
People tried to deny it as much as they could, but Chiarot was definitely going to fetch a 1st.

It was a heck of a three years, Big Ben, the most polarizing defenseman in Habs recent memory. Eye-test people loved him, analytics people hated him. Truth is, you will be missed in Montréal.

Florida just became even more dangerous for the playoffs.


"analytics hate him" - like no, he's an okay middle pairing defenseman. I just wouldn't pay a 1st rounder for that.
Mar. 18, 2022 at 6:46 a.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
"analytics hate him" - like no, he's an okay middle pairing defenseman. I just wouldn't pay a 1st rounder for that.


I mean Colorado just gave up a 2nd for a meh #5. He's definitely worth a 1st as a rental
Mar. 18, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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If FLA wins the Cup, they win the trade. If they lose in the playoffs, they lose the trade. Very simple. MTL wins no matter what.
Mar. 18, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I mean Colorado just gave up a 2nd for a meh #5. He's definitely worth a 1st as a rental


Or...
Just maybe...

Colorado also overpaid?
Mar. 18, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
Or...
Just maybe...

Colorado also overpaid?


That's the market, if everyone is "overpaying" then is anyone overpaying?
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