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Just a Thought

Created by: SibbySnipes
Published: Mar. 18, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 40/200 (20%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDetroit Red Wings

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Bertuzzi, TylerDetroit Red WingsNHL-$950,000011---50242448--
2022 4th round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Provorov, IvanPhiladelphia FlyersNHL-$1,350,000011---5651520--
2022 6th round pick (Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$11,899,4922344743713
Change-$400,000000000
Final$11,499,492 (↓)2344743713-19-9-28

Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPhiladelphia Flyers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Provorov, IvanPhiladelphia FlyersNHL-$6,750,000011---5651520--
2022 6th round pick (Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Bertuzzi, TylerDetroit Red WingsNHL-$4,750,000011---50242448--
2022 4th round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$6,168,6922349703412
Change$2,000,000000000
Final$8,168,692 (↑)234970341219928
Mar. 18, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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This was my thought around this trade idea, and its only an idea.

I don't think Stevie Y is all that happy about the vaccine status of Bertuzzi. By next season, Detroit will have to cross the border at least 10 times for games. If Detroit is going to try and make a playoff push next year, 10 games can make or break your season, especially when 6 of those trips are teams within your own division. By trading Bertuzzi to the Metro, those missed games goes down from 10 to 7 for Bertuzzi.

Detroit gets Provorov, who can be Seiders D partner. Detroit instantly gets that Top 2 pairing that they need. Provorov has term behind him and Detroit can easily take on his salary. I believe Yzerman likes to build his team from the net out. He got Ned in the offseason, and now he gets Provorov who can move the puck and has great vision on the ice. Also a great pairing for his younger Dman in Seider.

From the Flyers perspective, they get the type of player they have been missing for quite a while. Bertuzzi has come into his game a lot in the last couple of years, and his aggressive forecheck is something the Flyers have been lacking for quite some time. Bertuzzi would become an instant Flyer favourite because of his gameplay. He will also be able to produce which is ultimately what they flyers need, scoring.

Now typically I would view Detroit maybe having to give up a bit more in order to land Provorov, but the upside that I'm sure someone like Yzerman would pick up on is because of the border rules pertaining to Bertuzzi. If Bertuzzi continues to refuse to be vaccinated, that immediately drops his overall value, which will allow a team like Philly, to not have to give him a huge raise after his contract runs up, which will help their cap situation. It's this reason why this trade seems somewhat like a one-for-one deal.

If you read this far, thanks for reading and I look forward to hearing opinions.
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Mar. 18, 2022 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: SibbySnipes
This was my thought around this trade idea, and its only an idea.

I don't think Stevie Y is all that happy about the vaccine status of Bertuzzi. By next season, Detroit will have to cross the border at least 10 times for games. If Detroit is going to try and make a playoff push next year, 10 games can make or break your season, especially when 6 of those trips are teams within your own division. By trading Bertuzzi to the Metro, those missed games goes down from 10 to 7 for Bertuzzi.

Detroit gets Provorov, who can be Seiders D partner. Detroit instantly gets that Top 2 pairing that they need. Provorov has term behind him and Detroit can easily take on his salary. I believe Yzerman likes to build his team from the net out. He got Ned in the offseason, and now he gets Provorov who can move the puck and has great vision on the ice. Also a great pairing for his younger Dman in Seider.

From the Flyers perspective, they get the type of player they have been missing for quite a while. Bertuzzi has come into his game a lot in the last couple of years, and his aggressive forecheck is something the Flyers have been lacking for quite some time. Bertuzzi would become an instant Flyer favourite because of his gameplay. He will also be able to produce which is ultimately what they flyers need, scoring.

Now typically I would view Detroit maybe having to give up a bit more in order to land Provorov, but the upside that I'm sure someone like Yzerman would pick up on is because of the border rules pertaining to Bertuzzi. If Bertuzzi continues to refuse to be vaccinated, that immediately drops his overall value, which will allow a team like Philly, to not have to give him a huge raise after his contract runs up, which will help their cap situation. It's this reason why this trade seems somewhat like a one-for-one deal.

If you read this far, thanks for reading and I look forward to hearing opinions.


I read what you wrote but the Flyers are not giving up a top pairing dman for just Bertuzzi. Provorov is cost controlled for a few more years Bertuzzi is not. You may like this trade but definitely not for us. Now if it was Larkin that would be a deal. You gotta remember dman are more in demand and the cost to acquire them is higher. Finally I don’t really care if someone is vaccinated or not it’s their choice but if he can’t cross the border for Det he can’t for Phi either.
Mar. 18, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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From a Detroit side I kinda like the deal. He's the kinda guy we need to help anchor the defense with Seider.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 2:31 a.m.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the vaccination status issue is gone away with by next season. It’s possible, albeit unlikely, it’ll be as soon as playoff time this year. More likely next year you won’t hear anything about COVID from anybody in sports at all.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.
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Personally, I'm hoping Bertuzzi nets a center prospect / young NHLer with the ability to play 2C, whether right away or in a year or two.

Alex Newhook of COL and Turcotte of LA are the two I'm eyeing the most - both teams have been rumored to be interested in Bertuzzi to my knowledge. If Florida is about to trade for Giroux as is being strongly rumored today, that may up the urgency for COL if the rumor is true that they are interested in Giroux. May "settle" for Bertuzzi? A Wings fan can hope.

If the Wings want to contend as soon as next year, they'll definitely need NHL ready top-4 D help, so I suppose this trade proposal makes sense too. However, I'm not sure that this makes sense for Philly. Philly has had two straight poor seasons and is moments away from trading their captain. I don't think they need a Bertuzzi. Frankly, I think they need a retool/rebuild... one year of Bertuzzi doesn't help them much, right?
 
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