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Giroux Fiala and White for Dvorak swap

Created by: dsmitts01
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 25, 2022
Published: Mar. 25, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Not saying Dorion will get both of them, but they would be the perfect options to help this team.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
3$5,500,000
2$2,000,000
5$7,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Pick, 2022 top 5
3$925,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Dvorak, Christian
Additional Details:
Not gonna happen but curious what people think of this
MTL
  1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
  2. White, Colin
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Brannstrom could be decent 3rd pair defenseman but can help your pp
2.
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
MIN
  1. Abramov, Vitaly [Reserve List]
  2. Järventie, Roby
  3. Pinto, Shane
  4. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
They key here is Pinto. In order to get fiala, Sens have to give up a quality player and Minny could use Centres. Jarventie is progressing well, not nhl ready but very young with top 6 potential.
3.
OTT
ARI
  1. Gustavsson, Filip
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$76,384,047$0$2,940,000$6,115,953

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW
RFA
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$821,667$821,667
C, RW
RFA - 1
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$818,333$818,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
UFA - 6
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RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Pick, 2022 top 5
$925,000$925,000

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Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:22 p.m.
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Sens should not trade Shane pinto or trade Gus to dump Zaitzev and I doubt Montreal has any interest in white
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Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him
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Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him


I think they would take a first rounder for him
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Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
Sens should not trade Shane pinto or trade Gus to dump Zaitzev and I doubt Montreal has any interest in white


Friedman reported that Hughes had interest in White at the deadline. I agree we shouldn't trade PInto, but Minny will be looking for a young NHL player (especially on an ELC). If Sens are serious about contending, giving up Pinto is neccesary for Pinto
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:28 p.m.
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Quoting: dsmitts01
Friedman reported that Hughes had interest in White at the deadline. I agree we shouldn't trade PInto, but Minny will be looking for a young NHL player (especially on an ELC). If Sens are serious about contending, giving up Pinto is neccesary for Pinto


No it's not, just trade a first and another propect, Fiala is not worth that much, Pinto will also be key for us at our peak as a great third line center. You also overpaid for everything.
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:29 p.m.
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Quoting: raph222b
Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him


Quoting: jet11567
I think they would take a first rounder for him


They won't that's their problem because he only got that much because Montreal was a desperate team looking for a player after the KK offersheet and Arizona fleeced them for an okay 2nd center. They will never get their money back or their assets, he is probably only worth a 2nd+ another late pick.
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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No it's not, just trade a first and another propect, Fiala is not worth that much, Pinto will also be key for us at our peak as a great third line center. You also overpaid for everything.


We can't just give Brannstrom, Jarventie and a 2nd. Minnesota will want quality assets that can help them now. Fiala has 56 points in 61 games this year and is an RFA, his value is high right now
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:33 p.m.
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They won't that's their problem because he only got that much because Montreal was a desperate team looking for a player after the KK offersheet and Arizona fleeced them for an okay 2nd center. They will never get their money back or their assets, he is probably only worth a 2nd+ another late pick.


Plus that was a Bergevin trade too, so Hughes probably doesn't feel obligated to keep Dvorak
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: dsmitts01
Friedman reported that Hughes had interest in White at the deadline. I agree we shouldn't trade PInto, but Minny will be looking for a young NHL player (especially on an ELC). If Sens are serious about contending, giving up Pinto is neccesary for Pinto


I would not trade Pinto. JBD or Thomson + Jarventie + a 1st in 2023 should be enough
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: raph222b
Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him


Can't imagine they'll get their money back after this season. Would be better to see if he can have a comeback year and raise his price.
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Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:35 p.m.
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We can't just give Brannstrom, Jarventie and a 2nd. Minnesota will want quality assets that can help them now. Fiala has 56 points in 61 games this year and is an RFA, his value is high right now


A mean like a future first and another propect, but I don't think Fiala is the way to go, will cost a lot of money and they'll be good cheaper options out their like Kubalic or Kunin.
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.
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A mean like a future first and another propect, but I don't think Fiala is the way to go, will cost a lot of money and they'll be good cheaper options out their like Kubalic or Kunin.


Dorion has scouted Fiala many times and according to Michael Russo, the Sens love him. We need established top 6 guys, not chances
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:41 p.m.
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I would not trade Pinto. JBD or Thomson + Jarventie + a 1st in 2023 should be enough


I don't want to either, but quality players need quality going back. Unless your Buchnevich LOL
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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I don't want to either, but quality players need quality going back. Unless your Buchnevich LOL


The Reinhart return is pretty fair . JBD or Thomson plus a top 5 protected 2023 1st should be enough. If they want more, they can get have Jarventie. Other than that, move on.
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:50 p.m.
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The Reinhart return is pretty fair . JBD or Thomson plus a top 5 protected 2023 1st should be enough. If they want more, they can get have Jarventie. Other than that, move on.


Minny reportedly wants a player coming back though. I would prefer giving up that proposal but I don't think they accept it
Mar. 25, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.
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Minny reportedly wants a player coming back though. I would prefer giving up that proposal but I don't think they accept it


If they want Pinto, I walk away. You could do a deal without Pinto, we have the assets
Mar. 25, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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A mean like a future first and another propect, but I don't think Fiala is the way to go, will cost a lot of money and they'll be good cheaper options out their like Kubalic or Kunin.


The gap between Fiala and the other 2 are massive. Fiala is a legit top 6 and the others are middle 6 guys. We need legit top 6, not more middle 6 guys like Formenton and Brown
Mar. 25, 2022 at 10:03 p.m.
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The gap between Fiala and the other 2 are massive. Fiala is a legit top 6 and the others are middle 6 guys. We need legit top 6, not more middle 6 guys like Formenton and Brown


Fair, just don't like the idea of what you'd have to pay, but I guess cause Batherson is on the good contract you can pay him, but I'd worry about the future cap, also I don't like giving up prospects but I get that you can't build forever. I just hope that LA gets him, signs him to a rediculous contract and Ottawa goes and gets Olofsson or Giroux. Not Boeser, he is not the way, unless he is unqualified.
Mar. 25, 2022 at 10:03 p.m.
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If they want Pinto, I walk away. You could do a deal without Pinto, we have the assets


I'm just trying to find a deal that both fan bases can understand. How would u feel about Greig instead of Pinto
Mar. 25, 2022 at 10:21 p.m.
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I'm just trying to find a deal that both fan bases can understand. How would u feel about Greig instead of Pinto


No.
You could do a deal with JBD or Thomson + Jarventie + 2023 1st
Mar. 25, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.
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Solid team but goaltending still suspect
Mar. 25, 2022 at 10:37 p.m.
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Montreal is nottrading Dvorak for less than a 1st + B/C prospect. Plain and simple, we can't afford to who else is going to play 2C Poehling, Evans, Dauphin?! Nope just Dvo.
 
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