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Trade-downs at draft

Created by: NHLfan10506
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 2, 2022
Published: Apr. 2, 2022
Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Team Explanation
I used The Athletic’s draft pick value chart for numerical values of picks.

In this scenario, Cooley, Wright and Slafkovsky are drafted with first three picks. NJD is on the clock at #4 and looking to trade down.

Just exploring ideas….
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
#14 overall = 5.1
VAN
  1. Zacha, Pavel
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
#4 overall = 9.0

9.0 - 5.1 = 3.9 (value for 21st overall selection). So in other words, the gap between Zacha and Boeser would have to be equal to the value of 21st overall pick to be fair).
2.
NJD
    NJD selects Ryan Chesley at #14
    VAN
      VAN selects Simon Nemec at #4
      3.
      NJD
      1. Fiala, Kevin
      2. 2022 1st round pick (MIN)
      Additional Details:
      #23 overall = 3.6
      MIN
      1. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
      #4 overall = 9.0

      9.0 - 3.6 = 5.4 (value for 12th overall selection). So in other words, it would be pricing Fiala equal to 12th pick.

      (Note it would be 2022 pick, but had to use 2023 as placeholder)
      4.
      NJD
        NJD selects Filip Messr at #23
        MIN
          MIN selects Brad Lambert at #4
          Buyouts
          • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
          Retained Salary Transactions
          • Will Butcher: $910,569 (24%)
          Recapture Fees
          • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
          DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
          2022
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          2023
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          2024
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          ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
          23$81,500,000$74,352,235$0$3,732,500$7,147,765
          Left WingCenterRight Wing
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          Sharangovich, Yegor
          $2,000,000
          LW, RW, C
          RFA - 2
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          Hughes, Jack
          $925,000
          C
          UFA - 1
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          Mercer, Dawson
          $894,167
          C, RW
          RFA - 3
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          Tatar, Tomas
          $4,500,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 2
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          Hischier, Nico
          $7,250,000
          C
          UFA - 6
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          Bratt, Jesper
          $2,750,000
          RW, LW
          RFA - 1
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          Fiala, Kevin
          $5,100,000
          RW, LW
          UFA - 1
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          Boqvist, Jesper
          $925,000
          C, LW, RW
          RFA - 1
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          Boeser, Brock
          $5,875,000
          RW
          UFA - 1
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          Wood, Miles
          $2,750,000
          LW
          UFA - 1
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          Mcleod, Michael
          $975,000
          C
          RFA - 2
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          Bastian, Nathan
          $825,000
          RW, C
          RFA - 2
          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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          Siegenthaler, Jonas
          $1,125,000
          LD
          UFA - 2
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          Severson, Damon
          $4,166,666
          RD
          UFA - 2
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          Daws, Nico
          $850,833
          G
          RFA - 3
          Logo of the NJD
          Graves, Ryan
          $3,166,667
          LD
          UFA - 2
          Logo of the NJD
          Hamilton, Dougie
          $9,000,000
          RD
          NMC
          UFA - 7
          Logo of the NJD
          Gillies, Jon
          $750,000
          G
          UFA - 1
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          Smith, Ty
          $863,333
          LD/RD
          RFA - 2
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          Subban, P.K.
          $9,000,000
          RD
          UFA - 1
          ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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          White, Colton
          $750,000
          LD
          UFA - 1
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          Johnsson, Andreas
          $3,400,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 2
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          Hammond, Andrew
          $750,000
          G
          UFA - 1
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          Geertsen, Mason
          $725,000
          LW, LD
          UFA - 1
          Logo of the NJD
          Kuokkanen, Janne
          $1,825,000
          LW, C
          UFA - 2
          Logo of the NJD
          Blackwood, Mackenzie
          $2,800,000
          G
          RFA - 2
          Logo of the NJD
          Vesey, Jimmy
          $800,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 1
          Logo of the NJD
          Bernier, Jonathan
          $4,125,000
          G
          UFA - 2

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          Apr. 2 at 11:06 a.m.
          #1
          Welcome Simon Nemec
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          I like the idea of trading back
          Apr. 2 at 11:12 a.m.
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          Boeser to Devils. Konecny to Anaheim. Fiala to Sens . Everyone wins
          Apr. 2 at 11:31 a.m.
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          Quoting: csick
          Boeser to Devils. Konecny to Anaheim. Fiala to Sens . Everyone wins


          What’s that cost going to be though?
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          Apr. 2 at 11:32 a.m.
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          Fowler 4 Norris
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          A Hughes Nemec pairing would be filthy for years man
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          Apr. 2 at 11:38 a.m.
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          Quoting: GeneralLandro
          What’s that cost going to be though?


          Tracey and 2 2nds?
          Apr. 2 at 11:38 a.m.
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          Quoting: Carson
          With all due respect, you don't know what the pick will be for the devils..so Minnesota will not be adding fiala and 1st round pick. Ottawa gm would give up a top 7 to top 10 protected for fiala. Most Ottawa fans have agreed to it


          Reading doesn't seem to be your thing but here goes anyway. He clearly says the scenario is it is draft day and NJ is on the clock with pick #4 and wants to trade back. He used the Athletic's draft rankings to project picks. Also this is a fantasy website where people with no inside info toss around ideas for fun, you should try it sometime.
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          Apr. 2 at 11:43 a.m.
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          Quoting: csick
          Tracey and 2 2nds?


          Hmmm.. not saying no but where would be fit?

          Assuming our top line is Milano Zegras Terry, 2nd like being Comtois McTavish Konecny?

          I haven’t seen him play many games at all so not sure
          Apr. 2 at 11:44 a.m.
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          If Wright, Cooley and Slafkovsky go in the Top 3, the Devils shouldn't trade down, take Nemec. Your D-core could be one of the best in the entire league rather soon. You'd have to chose 3 from Hughes, Mukhamadullin, Graves, Siegenthaler, Bahl and Smith on the left side and Hamilton, Nemec, Severson, (Smith,) Walsh and, sadly, Subban on the right side. Could then trade some of the ones that woudln't get much TOI.
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          Apr. 2 at 11:45 a.m.
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          Quoting: GeneralLandro
          Hmmm.. not saying no but where would be fit?

          Assuming our top line is Milano Zegras Terry, 2nd like being Comtois McTavish Konecny?

          I haven’t seen him play many games at all so not sure


          Yeah just like that. He would help McTavish or you can switch him and Terry
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          Apr. 2 at 11:45 a.m.
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          Quoting: csick
          Tracey and 2 2nds?


          Not sure I'd do it. Not a huge fan of Konecny and idk if it's worth it.
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          Apr. 2 at 11:59 a.m.
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          demko owns your team
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          I like that Canucks deal, I’d do it. Any chance the Devils would throw Mcleod in there (I personally like him a lot)?
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          Apr. 2 at 11:59 a.m.
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          Love it for Van. B0eser has an expensive QO. Welcome to Vancouver, Nemec
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          Apr. 2 at 12:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: TZ11
          If Wright, Cooley and Slafkovsky go in the Top 3, the Devils shouldn't trade down, take Nemec. Your D-core could be one of the best in the entire league rather soon. You'd have to chose 3 from Hughes, Mukhamadullin, Graves, Siegenthaler, Bahl and Smith on the left side and Hamilton, Nemec, Severson, (Smith,) Walsh and, sadly, Subban on the right side. Could then trade some of the ones that woudln't get much TOI.


          Agree, that is the most likely scenario. But I also think a defensive group of...

          Siegenthaler -- Severson
          Graves -- Hamilton
          Mukhamadullin -- Hughes
          Smith -- Chesley
          Bahl -- Walsh
          Edwards -- McCarthy

          ...would be nearly as strong as it would with Nemec/Jiricek in there. Also, Subban is done at end of this year. They have already announced they won't be resigning him.
          Apr. 2 at 12:01 p.m.
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          Quoting: csick
          Boeser to Devils. Konecny to Anaheim. Fiala to Sens . Everyone wins


          In three different trades? Or one massive 6-team deal?!

          (please be the latter)
          Apr. 2 at 12:03 p.m.
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          In three different trades? Or one massive 6-team deal?!

          (please be the latter)


          What are you talking about. We all know Bettman can't do that much math! Jk lol
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          Apr. 2 at 12:03 p.m.
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          Quoting: cooliny
          I like that Canucks deal, I’d do it. Any chance the Devils would throw Mcleod in there (I personally like him a lot)?


          McLeod is a role player for us, but an important one, especially for defensive zone faceoffs and centering our checking line. The one guy in our system who most closely resembles his skillset was traded to Montreal at the deadline (Nate Schnarr). So I doubt Devils have any plans on moving McLeod anytime soon.
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          Apr. 2 at 12:08 p.m.
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          In three different trades? Or one massive 6-team deal?!

          (please be the latter)


          6 team trade would be cool 😂😂
          Apr. 2 at 12:52 p.m.
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          I could see VAN going for something like that at the draft if they have a player they like available to them. And Nemec would probably one of those.
          Apr. 2 at 1:02 p.m.
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          Canucks only do that if Nemec is available
          Apr. 2 at 1:03 p.m.
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          This is interesting. But can you really say that Boeser is 1 Pavel Zacha better than Fiala and 9 spots in what is generally considered a weak draft? I get the argument but i gotta believe Fiala and Boeser are near equal value, i may be way off, and so then in my head Zacha is worth 9 spots in a weak draft. Straighten me out if I'm way off.
          Apr. 2 at 1:04 p.m.
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          It's interesting for sure. Guerin (or really Brackett) would have to be super confident whoever is picked at 4 can be a top line/paring player. I'd hope we end up with Savoie, Geekie, or Cooley over Lambert though.
          Apr. 2 at 1:10 p.m.
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          Luke Hughes
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          I like the concept but I rather keep the high pick and trade for Boeser/Fiala another way
          Apr. 2 at 1:15 p.m.
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          Quoting: Devil
          I like the concept but I rather keep the high pick and trade for Boeser/Fiala another way


          Boeser is likely only traded for a top pairing RHD. Your 4OA can be exactly that if Nemec is available
           
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