Turcotte hasnt even shown that he can be an NHL player yet let alone a 2nd liner and a mid to late 1st doesnt get it done on top of that for a 1st line winger. That's an easy no for the leafs and a 4th liner and a 2nd doesnt get a middle 6 versatile forward

You can't expect rookies to come in and play top 6 mins right away. Unless you have players like Matthews, McDavid and etc. the best coarse of action to shelter them behind players and leaders they can learn from. Kerfoot who is a Swiss army knife and can play all 3 forward positions plus the pk is a guy you probably want your rookies to learn from

After Johnston claimed that no matter how the playoffs go, he thinks that Dubas will trade one of the big 4 this summer (which would obiously be Nylander), i started thinking about trades for him. I was thinking of one similar to this but revolving around Vilardi. It would be a gamble because neither Turcotte or Vilardi have shown any success at the NHL level but if they could reach their ceilings it would be the grounds for a good trade if we desperately need capspace.

The Number of rookies on this roster would frighten me a little. I would either keep Kerfoot for his versatility and/or get a decent 3rd line center upgrade on Kampf instead of giving out long term contracts to Sandin and liljegren (who i don't think would take 8 year deals at 4M).

Even if Campbell has decent numbers the rest of the year and the playoffs i am scared to commit that much money and term when he can implode and become a detriment for months at a time.

The Jackets do not want Kerfoot. Stop peddling him to us. As posted in previous comments, the Jackets want to work in the younger forwards not bring in middle of the pack guys.

I get what you are saying but if Nylander (or Marner) is traded, it has to be for a very good Rd. Too much focus is always on making sure the forward group is fully stacked but a first round exit this time should usher in the idea of defense first from every player on this roster and it should start with trading for an Rd who will add to that idea.

Our defence is good tbh. I don’t think we need dman with the emergence of Liljegren and Sandin. With just those 2 we now have have 5 legit top 4 dman with Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie, Sandin and Liljegren. No need for a dman especially with Neimela coming up.

Nylander is the odd man out. I’ve vouched for Marner to be the one traded but this year he proved he’s on a whole other level than Nylander.

Villardi has the same issue as Tavares which is why I don’t want him. He’s kinda slow. Plus Turcotte has a strong defensive game that easily make him a top two way centre in the league. Pairing that with Robertson who can score 30+ goals and Tavares who’s the little things king would make a perfect situation for him

Also Toronto likes Kampf at 3rd line cause of his assignment. He’s a checking line player. Kase and Engvall has shown great play driving ability on offence. Plus no need to commit to a 3rd line player when prospects like Steeves, Knies and Abruzzese are on the rise. Especially since when commuting to said 3rd line we would need a m-ntc or nmc

With Campbell he’s more of a bridge. I did see reports that Toronto is interested in Samsonov from Washington but that’s a project and would cost some draft capital. I’d go for it but idk abo it how the contract would look for Samsonov who’s had a poor season to say the least

Kk do what Buffalo and Edmonton has done in the 2010s with their prospects. Surround them with the incorrect players so they never learned to play a full 200 ft game.

how is a guy who cant even make the NHL when he's close to 22 "easily a top two way center in the league"?

Spelling mistake but I was saying that he has the tools to be a top two way centre in the league.

If honestly bet on it as well as I do believe in his skill

Lots of players have tools. He cant even score as well in the ahl now as nylander did as an 18 year old

The entire point here is that CBJ are already flushed with veterans taking up minutes. Moving Robinson to get Kerfoot is just...replacing another veteran with a veteran.

Can't really say Kerfoot is any more or less of a "correct" player, either. His defensive numbers are fine, and I typically take any player's offensive numbers coming out of TOR/COL/FLA/TBL with a grain of salt, since most teams in the league don't have Matthews/ Marner/ Tavares, etc. Plus, he's making double Robinson's salary.

Well it's nice to see how high people seem to be on Liljegren/Sandin's play since the additions on defense and I'm not one to rain on anyone's parade but may be some need a reminder that both of these guys are 3rd pair D right now.

And... while it is hopeful to see them playing well, this is still the regular season. Let's see how these guys handle playoff hockey where the pressure is upped x1000.

Also about Gio: he has looked good in the small amount of time he's been with the team and people assume that he'll sign a team friendly deal like Spezza has been and that's great. Just want to remind everyone that he's going to be 39 years old next season perhaps will not be nearly as effective as he's looked so far.

This league is trending younger and younger, not sure how I'd feel about a 39 year old keeping up.

Sandin and Liljegren analytics are amazing and needs more playing time. Here in this instance they have 3 pairs they can play 20 mins a night each and if one is looking off play another a little more.

That the way I personally look at it. Idk bout y’all but I tuck we need more of a quick fast paced team, that can counter when open ice is given and is quick in transition. Obviously giving up Nylander we lose a lot of that but Nylander this year has shown he’s the most replaceable like Kessel was with Pittsburgh in their runs.