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What even is Scheifeles worth these days

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Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 4, 2022
Published: Apr. 4, 2022
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Samberg and Heinola must be in the NHL by next season. Also, need a new coach and core shakeup.

I got zero clue what the jets do with their defenders but I guess we will see, I also hope they get a new coach that brings a whole new environment that doesn't have any emotional connection with the players and wont be afraid to make them uncomfortable.

With Scheifele, his play and criticism has made me really wonder about his value. Is a team going to give up a young center, a top RHD or some very good prospects for him I don't know? When you look at 55 this season doesn't it worry a GM to trade for a center with terrible defensive skills and questionable effort?
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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Rangers could never afford McDavid and there is zero reason for the Isles to trade Pulock, or his partner Pelloch. Top notch top pair, so who cares what their trade value is, they are not going to get traded.


At the end of the game you can’t have Pulock and Dobson on the ice. I wouldn’t trade Pelech either and I probably wouldn’t trade Pulock but I’m still curious what you would offer.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.
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Pure nonsense, it's the same risk to any team. Keep up the Ranger jealousy, its fun to read.


No it’s not same risk to any team. You think the Sens or NJ or Anaheim trading a 1st round pick is the same risk as Rangers trading a first round pick?
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.
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At the end of the game you can’t have Pulock and Dobson on the ice. I wouldn’t trade Pelech either and I probably wouldn’t trade Pulock but I’m still curious what you would offer.


I am a Ranger fan, so why would I offer anything for him?
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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I honestly don’t know…any trade would be based around Scheifele 50% retained


Well if you had to retool the roster around Barzy and Dobson, I would assume Pulock is the most valuable asset to trade.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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I am a Ranger fan, so why would I offer anything for him?

I meant jets my bad I got confused lol.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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No it’s not same risk to any team. You think the Sens or NJ or Anaheim trading a 1st round pick is the same risk as Rangers trading a first round pick?


Trading for the PLAYER is the same risk. The packages may be different, but its the same risk. You're saying that Ottawa wouldn't trade for Schief if the price was right? Under no circumstances? Of course they would, if the cost was right. That's why what you're saying is NONSENSE.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.
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As looking through these comments I have concluded jets fans think very high of him (value wise) and fans of other teams don’t.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.
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Well if you had to retool the roster around Barzy and Dobson, I would assume Pulock is the most valuable asset to trade.


It would be a hard trade to work as Dubois, Connor, Ehlers, Morrissey, Perfetti, and Samberg would be off the table from the start.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.
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Trading for the PLAYER is the same risk. The packages may be different, but its the same risk. You're saying that Ottawa wouldn't trade for Schief if the price was right? Under no circumstances? Of course they would, if the cost was right. That's why what you're saying is NONSENSE.


Honestly I’m gonna sound crazy for saying this but I’d rather have Copp than Scheifele at this point. Copp reminds me of J.T. Miller before he went to Vancouver.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:13 p.m.
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It would be a hard trade to work as Dubois, Connor, Ehlers, Morrissey, Perfetti, and Samberg would be off the table from the start.


Not a huge fan of Morrissey anyway. I like Ehlers but that wouldn’t be a deal breaker either. I want Perfetti the same way you guys want Schneider. It isn’t happening lol.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.
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It would be a hard trade to work as Dubois, Connor, Ehlers, Morrissey, Perfetti, and Samberg would be off the table from the start.


Would Kieffer Bellows for Logan Stanley interest you? I won’t be offended if you say **** no lol.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.
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Honestly I’m gonna sound crazy for saying this but I’d rather have Copp than Scheifele at this point. Copp reminds me of J.T. Miller before he went to Vancouver.


Not crazy. Copp has fit in great and probably the nail in Strome's coffin because he will be cheaper to sign. He will be a good 2C behind Mika which also eliminates any need to trade for Schief....but that won't stop Jets fans from posting nonsense trades.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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As looking through these comments I have concluded jets fans think very high of him (value wise) and fans of other teams don’t.


I’m assuming you mean Stanley. I was just curious cause I think you could put him next to Dobson and he would be fine lol.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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Not crazy. Copp has fit in great and probably the nail in Strome's coffin because he will be cheaper to sign. He will be a good 2C behind Mika which also eliminates any need to trade for Schief....but that won't stop Jets fans from posting nonsense trades.


I’ve never liked Mika as much as most people do. I think Copp is better tbh.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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Would Kieffer Bellows for Logan Stanley interest you? I won’t be offended if you say **** no lol.

Not really… don’t have any need for bottom 6 LW in WPG
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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I’m assuming you mean Stanley. I was just curious cause I think you could put him next to Dobson and he would be fine lol.

Refering to Scheifele
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:21 p.m.
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Not crazy. Copp has fit in great and probably the nail in Strome's coffin because he will be cheaper to sign. He will be a good 2C behind Mika which also eliminates any need to trade for Schief....but that won't stop Jets fans from posting nonsense trades.


There are countless rags fans posting Lundkvist for Scheifele trades, so get over yourself.
If I’d have been GM, it would have cost you Lundkvist for Copp… if you wouldn’t have done that, then you wouldn’t have him on your team right now.
Chevy is a pushover
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Not really… don’t have any need for bottom 6 LW in WPG


His numbers won’t wow you but I really like Bellows. I promise I’m not trying to sell you on him. I watched Svechnikov skating with Dubois and Connor against the Isles and I thought to myself “Bellows must be better than him.”
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:27 p.m.
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There are countless rags fans posting Lundkvist for Scheifele trades, so get over yourself.
If I’d have been GM, it would have cost you Lundkvist for Copp or you wouldn’t have him on your team right now.
Chevy is a pushover


Chevy made a bad deal with Copp. I would’ve done everything I could to resign him. If the rangers don’t keep him I would love to have him as Barzy’s left wing, but I know that won’t happen.
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:27 p.m.
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His numbers won’t wow you but I really like Bellows. I promise I’m not trying to sell you on him. I watched Svechnikov skating with Dubois and Connor against the Isles and I thought to myself “Bellows must be better than him.”


Id take a 2nd and B prospect for Stanley
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:28 p.m.
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As looking through these comments I have concluded jets fans think very high of him (value wise) and fans of other teams don’t.


I think it’s most non Jets fans are hoping because Scheifele isn’t playing to his usual this season and seems unhappy, that they can somehow turn that into a rip off of the Jets…. Won’t happen
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:28 p.m.
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Id take a 2nd and B prospect for Stanley


Yeah Isles have no farm system rn so I figured I’d ask if you would accept Bellows for Stanley one for one.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
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I think it’s most non Jets fans are hoping because Scheifele isn’t playing to his usual this season and seems unhappy, that they can somehow turn that into a rip off of the Jets…. Won’t happen


I think Lundkvist is a reasonable ask, but I wouldn’t move Schneider.
Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:32 p.m.
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Chevy made a bad deal with Copp. I would’ve done everything I could to resign him. If the rangers don’t keep him I would love to have him as Barzy’s left wing, but I know that won’t happen.

Problem is Copp wants a raise, Dubois needs a raise, and Wheeler is draining our cap.
Couldn’t keep Dubois, Scheifele, Wheeler and extend Copp… and at that point, (and currently as far as I know), Chevy was 100% keeping Scheifele… which meant Copp or Dubois had to go and Dubois isn’t going anywhere.
I’d have traded Scheifele at the TDL and kept Copp
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Apr. 4, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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I think it’s most non Jets fans are hoping because Scheifele isn’t playing to his usual this season and seems unhappy, that they can somehow turn that into a rip off of the Jets…. Won’t happen


As someone who has studied the Rangers farm for years. IMO they don’t have a prospect you can build a major offer around. Like all my buddies who didn’t play hockey in NY are rangers fans so I always try and be objective here. I would personally just try and get Othmann and picks. I like Lundkvist but I wouldn’t sacrifice getting a future first in order to get him. You don’t want to pull an Ottawa and trade a first line forward for the next Erik Brannstrom.
 
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