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Created by: BeautifulIdiot
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2022
Published: Apr. 6, 2022
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This off season is going to hurt, so dont get too attached to any particular player. Allvin and his chipmunks are all going to be trying to turn this team around. I think there are some definite positives to realize from this season though.

1. Some of the players who we were hating on, aren't so bad. Guys such as Myers, and Poolman have not been such defensive eye sores.

2. There is still a lot of work to do

3. We need to get younger, faster, and tougher

4. Establishing the new leadership in the locker room should be paramount. It needs to change from being the Miller, Tanev, Markstrom and Edler locker room to the Horvat, Demko, Petterson, and Hughes locker room. In order to do so, we need to slowly remove those old guys from the room and create spots for the younger guys to step up and take charge.

I think that we will finish about 14th in the draft and would think that Connor Geekie would go about there. Big centre could fill in the 3c or a winger in a few years.
To be safe I put NJD at 7th in the draft, thats where I think they would land, and with that pick I selected RD David Jiricek, hughes's RD partner that we have been looking for all these years.

Sent out some guys who we have extra of now for a few picks, don't come after me for value, it was more for the space IDC if your team accepts.

Martin will be the backup

I think we should use our farm team to develop players so having more in the system and closer by would be a real benefit to the long term goals of the team
Free Agent Signings
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2$825,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
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3$800,000
5$5,250,000
1$1,000,000
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Jiricek, David
3$925,000
Geekie, Connor
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K, Devs fans, let me know what you think. Corey Schnider went for a 1st rounder and at the time that was the nucks selling low. I think that boeser is worth a little bit more than the 7th OA so I threw in zacha from you guys and a 3rd and 4th to balance it out. Let me know - Value wise - if you think this is fair
NJD
  1. Boeser, Brock [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (NYR)
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VAN
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (NYR)
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  1. Bemström, Emil [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 4th round pick (TOR)
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VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (CGY)
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anywhere, doesnt matter price
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VAN
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (TOR)
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again, doesnt matter where, doesnt matter the price
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    This is exactly what happened to ferland, don't think he will be able to play much longer
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    Apr. 6, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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    Devils are currently sitting at #4 and will be without Hughes for the rest of the season... We aren't trading our 2022 first, especially not for an unsigned Boeser.
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    Apr. 6, 2022 at 9:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: MellowK
    Devils are currently sitting at #4 and will be without Hughes for the rest of the season... We aren't trading our 2022 first, especially not for an unsigned Boeser.


    ok say boeser was signed at 6.5x6 and you guys rose to 7th would you take it?
    Apr. 6, 2022 at 10:38 p.m.
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    Edited Apr. 6, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
    Hate the Miller trade. Small RHD who hasn’t lit it up even in the AHL. Chytil is a 3C at best. The late picks are meh.

    No to Strome he’s overrated propped up by better players. Better UFA’s out there.

    No to EP & Hughes being leaders too young & won’t work.

    That’s a small young D corp that would never happen sorry.
    Apr. 6, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
    ok say boeser was signed at 6.5x6 and you guys rose to 7th would you take it?


    Nah. Rather keep the pick
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    Apr. 6, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Nighthawk
    Hate the Miller trade. Small RHD who hasn’t lit it up even in the AHL. Chytil is a 3C at best. The late picks are meh.

    No to Strome he’s overrated propped up by better players. Better UFA’s out there.

    No to EP & Hughes being leaders too young & won’t work.

    That’s a small young D corp that would never happen sorry.


    Ok, where should he go, what should be the return

    Strome does have like 45 points in only 65 games this year but could be interchangable for a guy like copp

    I think that EP and QH have to be this teams leaders going forward, they are the best players on the ice and with the team getting younger, they need to take more responsibility

    OK, then for a bigger D core would that be solved, with getting different players back in the myers trade? there are guys like OEL (6'2") Jiricek (6'3") Schenn (6'2") burrows and dermott are both (6'). I think that that is a decent amount of size. Dont get me wrong, there are a few little guys, but nobody is tiny on the blueline. The average height in the NHL is 6'1"and half the guys are over that, so I dont really see an issue with height.
    Apr. 6, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Brock Boeser doesn't return Zacha and the 4th overall pick. Devils would turn that down big time. The 4th overall pick will probably be better then Boeser anyways especially with his health issues.
    Apr. 6, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.
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    In my opinion, New Jersey would decline that offer even if you took Zacha out.

    New Jersey won't be relevant next season, let alone playoff-competitive, so they're more than one player away from contending and therefore shouldn't be exchanging a high draft pick for a very expensive single asset. Moreover, it's unlikely the Devils will fall to #7 because they would have to catch Chicago, who are 5 points ahead, AND Ottawa, who are 4 points ahead with a game in hand and almost guaranteed to have the tiebreakers on the Devils.
    Apr. 6, 2022 at 11:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
    ok say boeser was signed at 6.5x6 and you guys rose to 7th would you take it?


    Zacha and a 2nd
    Or
    Top 5 pick

    These things are not similar
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    Apr. 6, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.
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    You would have to pay Buffalo to take on that LTIR contract, and a 3rd pairing defender doesn’t really cut it. I realize you don’t care if it actually works for the other team that you’re trading with, but that’s kind of how trades have to work or they don’t happen.
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 12:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    In my opinion, New Jersey would decline that offer even if you took Zacha out.

    New Jersey won't be relevant next season, let alone playoff-competitive, so they're more than one player away from contending and therefore shouldn't be exchanging a high draft pick for a very expensive single asset. Moreover, it's unlikely the Devils will fall to #7 because they would have to catch Chicago, who are 5 points ahead, AND Ottawa, who are 4 points ahead with a game in hand and almost guaranteed to have the tiebreakers on the Devils.


    I think you can argue Devils can be a playoff team if they added one player. Devils are right in the middle in terms of GF and that is with Hughes and Hamilton missing significant time this year. I saw a stat on the MSG+ broadcast during a game that the Devils had a top 5 offense since 2022 (they should be 5-10 range now). Devils are bottom 5 in GA. If they add a top tier goalie (one player), they could be a great team
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    Apr. 7, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    Zacha and a 2nd
    Or
    Top 5 pick

    These things are not similar


    I mean they are similar in a way, as both would result in a team declining the trade. Canucks decline Zacha and a 2nd for Boeser, Devils decline trading a top 5 pick for Boeser. That’s about where the similarities end though
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 12:13 a.m.
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    Buffalo will just sign UFAs.
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 12:22 a.m.
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    Oh no, more craziness, ruining other teams cap but trading cap from the Canucks but not expecting any back.
    Boesner and his lack of controllable years, and maybe even his play isn't worth a top 7 pick.
    More LTIR craziness thinking Ferland (and Poolman) helps Buffalo
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    Apr. 7, 2022 at 12:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: Devil
    I think you can argue Devils can be a playoff team if they added one player. Devils are right in the middle in terms of GF and that is with Hughes and Hamilton missing significant time this year. I saw a stat on the MSG+ broadcast during a game that the Devils had a top 5 offense since 2022 (they should be 5-10 range now). Devils are bottom 5 in GA. If they add a top tier goalie (one player), they could be a great team


    With all due respect, you're being overly optimistic if you think that next season you'll beat out two of Carolina, Rangers, Pittsburgh and Washington or finish above one of them and the Islanders, and that's not even taking into account the other division, which is going to supply one of the two wild-card teams from the conference this season and highly likely to supply one next season, too.

    Even adding a first-class goalie (of which the number available is exactly NONE) to Luke Hughes if he comes out of college after only one year isn't going to do it next season despite the probability that Hughes is the next Cale Makar -- whose team hasn't even reached the Stanley Cup Finals since he's joined the Avalanche.

    You've got a bright future, but it isn't next year.
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 1:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    With all due respect, you're being overly optimistic if you think that next season you'll beat out two of Carolina, Rangers, Pittsburgh and Washington or finish above one of them and the Islanders, and that's not even taking into account the other division, which is going to supply one of the two wild-card teams from the conference this season and highly likely to supply one next season, too.

    Even adding a first-class goalie (of which the number available is exactly NONE) to Luke Hughes if he comes out of college after only one year isn't going to do it next season despite the probability that Hughes is the next Cale Makar -- whose team hasn't even reached the Stanley Cup Finals since he's joined the Avalanche.

    You've got a bright future, but it isn't next year.


    I was thinking of a Demko to NJ trade. Repeat of 2013, Demko for Devils 1st. If that is the case, Devils look really good on paper. Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Mercer, Holtz, Sharangovich in the top 6. Hamilton, Severson, Siegnthaler, Graves in the top 4, and Demko in net. With the Islanders, Penguins, Capitals all headed toward decline (old age), Islanders being the oldest team in the league, and the Penguins/Capitals stars all headed to their late 30s. It isn't impossible for the Devils to make playoffs next year but you're right 2023-24 would seem to be more realistic (Luke Hughes, Shakir Mukhamudullin, and Arseni Gritsyuk would all make the team)
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    Apr. 7, 2022 at 1:24 a.m.
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    I was thinking of a Demko to NJ trade. Repeat of 2013, Demko for Devils 1st. If that is the case, Devils look really good on paper. Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Mercer, Holtz, Sharangovich in the top 6. Hamilton, Severson, Siegnthaler, Graves in the top 4, and Demko in net. With the Islanders, Penguins, Capitals all headed toward decline (old age), Islanders being the oldest team in the league, and the Penguins/Capitals stars all headed to their late 30s. It isn't impossible for the Devils to make playoffs next year but you're right 2023-24 would seem to be more realistic (Luke Hughes, Shakir Mukhamudullin, and Arseni Gritsyuk would all make the team)


    If Hughes comes out, I'm gonna bet on him for the Calder.
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 1:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    With all due respect, you're being overly optimistic if you think that next season you'll beat out two of Carolina, Rangers, Pittsburgh and Washington or finish above one of them and the Islanders, and that's not even taking into account the other division, which is going to supply one of the two wild-card teams from the conference this season and highly likely to supply one next season, too.

    Even adding a first-class goalie (of which the number available is exactly NONE) to Luke Hughes if he comes out of college after only one year isn't going to do it next season despite the probability that Hughes is the next Cale Makar -- whose team hasn't even reached the Stanley Cup Finals since he's joined the Avalanche.

    You've got a bright future, but it isn't next year.


    I don’t know about that. Wash and Pitt are likely going to be taking a step back next year and especially with the latter Malkin is a UFA and so is Letang. Both of those teams have older cores and NJ does have some very talented forwards and cap space. Get a good goalie and a couple defenseman and NJ could be a very good team next season.
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    Apr. 7, 2022 at 1:32 a.m.
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    If Hughes comes out, I'm gonna bet on him for the Calder.


    Fitz said Hughes is going to sign after the NCAA season next year
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: Devil
    I was thinking of a Demko to NJ trade. Repeat of 2013, Demko for Devils 1st. If that is the case, Devils look really good on paper. Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Mercer, Holtz, Sharangovich in the top 6. Hamilton, Severson, Siegnthaler, Graves in the top 4, and Demko in net. With the Islanders, Penguins, Capitals all headed toward decline (old age), Islanders being the oldest team in the league, and the Penguins/Capitals stars all headed to their late 30s. It isn't impossible for the Devils to make playoffs next year but you're right 2023-24 would seem to be more realistic (Luke Hughes, Shakir Mukhamudullin, and Arseni Gritsyuk would all make the team)


    Canucks won’t trade Demko, he’s untouchable. In a hypothetical situation where they do, it would take a huge overpay, which is more than your 1st this year.

    Once the Devils do get a goalie, they are definitely going to have a great team on paper. It just won’t be Demko
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 7:19 a.m.
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    I would say that a more fair trade would be boeser and Van 2022 1st for NJD 1st
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 8:47 a.m.
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    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    I would say that a more fair trade would be boeser and Van 2022 1st for NJD 1st


    This is much more plausible.
    Kind of like the trade the Sharks were talking with Devils last year.

    (I think Sharks wanted Eklund at #4 and Devils though Hughes would be gone by #4...so turned out well for both I guess)
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    Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
    Brock Boeser doesn't return Zacha and the 4th overall pick. Devils would turn that down big time. The 4th overall pick will probably be better then Boeser anyways especially with his health issues.


    he could be, but the thing with boeser is that he doesnt really have any reoccuring issues, he has had wrist, shoulder and back problems. All different so that doesn't really put him in the category of health issues.
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    In my opinion, New Jersey would decline that offer even if you took Zacha out.

    New Jersey won't be relevant next season, let alone playoff-competitive, so they're more than one player away from contending and therefore shouldn't be exchanging a high draft pick for a very expensive single asset. Moreover, it's unlikely the Devils will fall to #7 because they would have to catch Chicago, who are 5 points ahead, AND Ottawa, who are 4 points ahead with a game in hand and almost guaranteed to have the tiebreakers on the Devils.


    Ok, I think that they have the chance to be knocking on the door next year and I more had them at 7th for draft placement
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    Zacha and a 2nd
    Or
    Top 5 pick

    These things are not similar


    See but I think that the canucks wouldnt take anything less than a 1st for boeser, I get that the 2nd will be a high 2nd but It isnt going to be a high pick like they would get with the OEL trade
    Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    This is much more plausible.
    Kind of like the trade the Sharks were talking with Devils last year.

    (I think Sharks wanted Eklund at #4 and Devils though Hughes would be gone by #4...so turned out well for both I guess)


    Luke Hughes SHOULD have been gone by #4.
     
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