Goaltending has to be affordable

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Created by: jacobla

Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2022

Published: Apr. 7, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

A scenario i can see playing out.

Tyson Barrie will get a second, a 3rd at the least.

Vitek vanecek is my guy, he has solid numbers over a few seasons but i believe that washington will get a veteran to help mentor samsonov who i believe is their long term plan. Vitek is young enough to grow with the core and is already a better goaltender than any of our options. 3 yrs at 2.75 seems like around the money young up and coming goalies are getting (forsberg) (nedeljkovic) (vejmelka) and others. From what i have read it seems the organization signed fanti because they have concerns about konovalov heading back to the KHL, i can see him staying around in a organization with a lot more russian players like washington, he has legitimate skill. Samorukov is a solid prospect but i feel he has been passed by niemo who is bigger, more violent, and skates better.

Kane should win his settlement meaning he can take around 4 mil to stay with MCD.
JP on a 6 yr deal should get around 4 if kotkiniemi got 4.8x 8
Yams should be bridged, while i love his play i have concerns about his size and Xavier bourgault, carter savoie, and raphael lavoie are percolating in the system.

I see holloway as the perfect winger for the nuge, big, fast, slightly physical, makes a great pass and is a posession driver at every level. Also allows him to break into the league with a savvy pair of vets in nuge and ryan (who has turned his game around on the wing)

i like tyler motte as a 4th line guy who can PK and throw in the occasional amount of offense whilst being defensively responsible. I dont think kass can be moved easily so figured keep him around.

Kulak is a must keep for me, hometown guy who has settled in nicely and i see him as a great longterm partner for bouchard.

Keith and broberg have been steady together and on the third pair i can see them doing well.

Skinner has demonstrated to me that he is very capable of being a backup in the NHL if not a 1b.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Vanecek, Vitek	3	$2,750,000
Yamamoto, Kailer	3	$3,000,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse	6	$4,000,000
McLeod, Ryan	3	$1,200,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kane, Evander	4	$4,000,000
Kulak, Brett	4	$2,300,000
Motte, Tyler	2	$1,500,000

Trades

EDM

2022 2nd round pick (DAL)

DAL

Barrie, Tyson

EDM

Vanecek, Vitek [RFA Rights]

WSH

EDM

2022 4th round pick (LAK)

LAK

Foegele, Warren

Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667
Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$82,940,295	$896,000	$2,200,000	-$440,295

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Puljujärvi, Jesse $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Yamamoto, Kailer $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW RFA - 2
Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($500,000$500K) LW, C RFA - 2	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 7	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Motte, Tyler $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan $1,200,000$1,200,000 C RFA - 1
Shore, Devin $850,000$850,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1		Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000$9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 3	Vanecek, Vitek $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3
Kulak, Brett $2,300,000$2,300,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Skinner, Stuart $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 1	Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 2
Niemeläinen, Markus $762,500$762,500 LD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Smith, Mike $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 1

Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:18 p.m.

jacobla

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Also i have a sneaking suspicion mike smith gets a career ending "medical procedure" done this offseason and then says "oh i gritted through it for the boys and pushed through the pain last season but unfortunately in view of being healthy and leading a life outside of hockey i need to take some time and ensure i recover fully yatta yatta yatta.

That way his pride stays intact and he can retire without saying his play fell off a cliff.

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Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

Zmach

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unfortunately i think edmonton will offer kuemper 6x5 or Husso 5x2. They aren't going anywhere with below .918 goaltending.

foegele is worth a second round pick.

Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.

jacobla

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there is no world in which foegele gets a 2nd round pick. a 3rd maybe.

Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.

CD282

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Quoting: jacobla

His play has been top notch when healthy though. Actually you could argue that he's not healthy right now, yet he's still stopping pucks at a great rate.

He could retire in the summer, but I don't think poor play when injured will have anything to do with it.

Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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I don't think that Warren Foegele is on our wish list. Aside from Alex Iafallo and Trevor Moore, we have Carl Grundstrom, Alex Turcotte and other left-handed forwards we're going to be trying to find playing time for. And we've been experimenting this past month with a "kids line" of Rasmus Kupari - Quinton Byfield - Gabe Vilardi, in which the wingers are both right-handed (meaning that Grundstrom or Brendan Lemieux or Lias Andersson is on the fourth line), so I don't see the roster space for Foegele.

Apr. 7, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.

CD282

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Quoting: Zmach

unfortunately i think edmonton will offer kuemper 6x5 or Husso 5x2. They aren't going anywhere with below .918 goaltending.

foegele is worth a second round pick.

Husso has had one hot 14 game stretch, otherwise he's been average or below. He's not worth that contract.

Foegele for Soucy in the summer. You heard it here first.

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Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.

jacobla

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i would do foegs for soucy.

In that situation i would not sign kulak to an extension. But i have loved kulak since he has been an oiler, silky smooth skating, defends transition well, and is pleasnatly offensive which i did not expect.

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Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.

McRanteskog

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Oilers attempt to finally fix their goaltending problem by getting an unproven goalie whos had some small glimpses of great play but no real track record of being an established true NHLer...
Where have i see this before?

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Apr. 7, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Hasn't Vanecek kinda passed Samsonov on the Caps goalie depth chart?

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Apr. 7, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.

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Zmach

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Quoting: McRanteskog

It would be easy to just sign kuemper but it doesnt seem to work that way for edmonton. They have to take what they can get.

Apr. 9, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.

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Oilfan1717

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The cost to acquire Vanek will be higher - add in a 2nd rounder at least. Kane will want more (and probably get it somewhere else) - a deal in the 4.5-6M range. Kassian is not a useful player at this point - trade him or buy him out.

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