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For cap space

Created by: palhal
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 16, 2022
Published: Apr. 16, 2022
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Leaf rid themselves of 11m X 2 years cap space, for little return. Now obviously Mrazek is a cap dump, but Zona could you Nylander and he would provide a good TDL return during the. next two season. Leafs use that cap space to get a starting goalie...Campbell , and to secure RFAs Sandin and Liljegren to some term.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,800,000
2$1,500,000
5$4,500,000
3$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
4$4,500,000
1$1,800,000
3$1,100,000
Trades
TOR
    One of Arizona's four second round picks. All picks are from non playoff teams.
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    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$82,500,000$82,611,584$212,500$0-$111,584
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 2
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    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
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    $796,667$796,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $834,167$834,167
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $800,000$800,000
    C, RW
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    UFA - 5
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    LD
    UFA - 2

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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:12 a.m.
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    Wright-Zuki-Caufield
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    Habs will give you our 2022 second for this.
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: HabsLoveZuki
    Habs will give you our 2022 second for this.


    Yeah, there aren't many teams that have the cap that could do the trade. I know so many Leaf fans will crucify me for trading Nylander for so little, but you can't look as Nylander and Mrzarek for a second.
    It's for a second rounder, Campbell and getting term for Sandin and Liljegren.
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.
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    This is just awful and you should stop posting it. Mrazek has a buy out of 1 million and I bet he gets moved without much trouble. GM's don't have memories as fickle as fans do. A goalie with 300 games of experience being a decent tandem goalie has some value. Even at 3.8 million for 2 years. A team that missed out on FA's will look at Mrazek as a cheap and easy acquisition. Especially one which needs cap space to reach the floor. Thinking it will cost Nylander to move Mrazek is literally insane. On top of that, what has Sandin or Liljegren done to deserve this sort of contract. You are just dumping a point a game player so you can overpay two 3rd pair defenders and then hoping a kid who hasn't been able to do anything at the NHL level (Robertson) is going to make up for the lost offence? This team would truly become a 1 line team after this mess.
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Yeah, there aren't many teams that have the cap that could do the trade. I know so many Leaf fans will crucify me for trading Nylander for so little, but you can't look as Nylander and Mrzarek for a second.
    It's for a second rounder, Campbell and getting term for Sandin and Liljegren.


    Every team would be climbing all over themselves to make room for this.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Every team would be climbing all over themselves to make room for this.


    I hope so as a Leaf fan. But a if a team had 11m they could sign a UFA for 11m better than Nylander and not have Mrzarek.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.
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    It’s stupid **** like this that give real Leaf fans a bad rep on here. Just delete this please.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.
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    I hope so as a Leaf fan. But a if a team had 11m they could sign a UFA for 11m better than Nylander and not have Mrzarek.


    Who? Who can they sign this summer for 11 million that is better than Nylander at 7? And before you say Campbell and the kids like you did above. Why wouldn't you trade Holl, Kerfoot and buyout Mrazek and keep Nylander? Then you have 8.3 in cap space to sign Campbell (4.5), Sandin and Liljegren (2x1.5 or so). And you have nearly a million left over as well. This is a nuclear option that is completely short sighted. Yes Cap space is important but how you spend it is vital. Overpaying depth and guys who may or may not earn what you give them is loaded with risk. I would say this plan would absolutely blow up in your face. The space you created has left a major hole offensively and if Sandin and Liljegren plateau, now you have 2 bad contracts and offensive issue.
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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    That's pretty horrible. Nylander's value far outweighs what it would cost to move Mrazek.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
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    Your credibility just took the biggest hit I’ve ever seen.

    Nice!
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Who? Who can they sign this summer for 11 million that is better than Nylander at 7? And before you say Campbell and the kids like you did above. Why wouldn't you trade Holl, Kerfoot and buyout Mrazek and keep Nylander? Then you have 8.3 in cap space to sign Campbell (4.5), Sandin and Liljegren (2x1.5 or so). And you have nearly a million left over as well. This is a nuclear option that is completely short sighted. Yes Cap space is important but how you spend it is vital. Overpaying depth and guys who may or may not earn what you give them is loaded with risk. I would say this plan would absolutely blow up in your face. The space you created has left a major hole offensively and if Sandin and Liljegren plateau, now you have 2 bad contracts and offensive issue.


    Trading Kerfoot....he's just a 3.5m hit. Holl he's just 2m cap hit. And both players have to be replacing . Sorry I don't see 2 years of Nylander that super valuable, especially when getting rid of Mrzarek and the ability to sign others might be more important. IMO there are going to be cap strapped teams getting rid of cap by the way I proposed. And it will be a buyers market
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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    Trading Kerfoot....he's just a 3.5m hit. Holl he's just 2m cap hit. And both players have to be replacing . Sorry I don't see 2 years of Nylander that super valuable, especially when getting rid of Mrzarek and the ability to sign others might be more important. IMO there are going to be cap strapped teams getting rid of cap by the way I proposed. And it will be a buyers market


    Who! Who do you sign? This is what you keep saying but never give an example how your replace Nylander. You just give him away to get rid of a guy you can buyout for a million and then say we can sign players. Who? Who do you sign to make up for the point a game player you are moving out?

    On top of that is Kerfoot hard to replace? Was Hyman? Is Holl hard to replace? He's currently our 7th or 8th defenceman. How hard will it be to find a new #3 RD for less than 2 million? Bogosian was a million, and was fine.

    The difference between either of those guys and Nylander is massive. Like how many thought Hyman was going to be a major major loss? Everyone said that and how much do we miss him? Not in the slightest. A guy making 7 million isn't necessarily a bad contract. If it's a value contract you just don't move it and you can't replace Nylander by just tossing money at 3 other players. You are better served to try out a bunch of bargain players and find yourself another Bunting, Kampf, Engvall, Kase and Mikheyev, all who have much greater value than Kerfoot
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
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    Palhal, you're one of the most knowledgeable Leaf fans on CFACGM. But this makes no sense. I understand you wanting the Leafs to balance the roster out. Nylander is a luxury. Not a necessity.

    But I think Mrazek can be traded. It won't be easy. But few people thought Ritchie could be moved and Dubas pulled that off. As others have said, a buyout is possible. I just think you're short changing Willy's value here.

    He could definitely get more value in a trade.
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
    Palhal, you're one of the most knowledgeable Leaf fans on CFACGM. But this makes no sense. I understand you wanting the Leafs to balance the roster out. Nylander is a luxury. Not a necessity.

    But I think Mrazek can be traded. It won't be easy. But few people thought Ritchie could be moved and Dubas pulled that off. As others have said, a buyout is possible. I just think you're short changing Willy's value here.

    He could definitely get more value in a trade.


    Way more. He's a top 50 player in the NHL and would have so much more value than getting rid of a guy who had multiple offers when he signed in TO.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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    This is something... At least you held onto Marner so that if Campbell has a bad year we can use Marner as a sweetener to unload him lol.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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    This is something... At least you held onto Marner so that if Campbell has a bad year we can use Marner as a sweetener to unload him lol.


    Well in two years Leafs will have 11.6m in additional cap when Matthews leaves, and then 22m in cap when Marner and Tavares leave also.
    Apr. 16, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.
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    Trading Kerfoot....he's just a 3.5m hit. Holl he's just 2m cap hit. And both players have to be replacing . Sorry I don't see 2 years of Nylander that super valuable, especially when getting rid of Mrzarek and the ability to sign others might be more important. IMO there are going to be cap strapped teams getting rid of cap by the way I proposed. And it will be a buyers market


    PalHal this is brutal. Nylander has one of the best contracts in the NHL. Makes no sense. 🤮
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    Apr. 16, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: junoandkeisha
    PalHal this is brutal. Nylander has one of the best contracts in the NHL. Makes no sense. 🤮


    But if a team needs cap, like the Leafs to fill a goalie position and more, the one player that gets best value back in a trade would be a player with one of the bed contacts in the league.
    But a have yet to see many Leafs posts where the Leafs keep their core, sign a competent goalie and have reasonable 22 man roster
    Apr. 18, 2022 at 4:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
    Palhal, you're one of the most knowledgeable Leaf fans on CFACGM. But this makes no sense. I understand you wanting the Leafs to balance the roster out. Nylander is a luxury. Not a necessity.

    But I think Mrazek can be traded. It won't be easy. But few people thought Ritchie could be moved and Dubas pulled that off. As others have said, a buyout is possible. I just think you're short changing Willy's value here.

    He could definitely get more value in a trade.


    He’s been saying to move Nylander for pure cap space for so long.. wouldn’t exactly call that a smart user at all. And this is by far the worst deal I’ve ever seen. Imagine thinking having to use a point per game player on a good contract as a sweetener to move $3.8m in cap for 2 years.. ridiculous.
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