Worth the offer sheet maybe

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Initial Creation Date: Apr. 11, 2022

Published: Apr. 16, 2022

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

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What players do y’all think are worth an offer sheet?
Josh Norris would be my top pick but Ott would almost certainly match anything $8 mil and under so the cost would be too high. Hague seems like a good piece even though Wallander and jJohansson prob have higher ceilings. He could be a good stop gap or give Det an opportunity to trade other pieces to fill needs. He also shouldn’t cost too much and VGK will have a tough time matching. Would this be too much for Hague?
Ps. I know Stevie will never offer sheet anybody!

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Edvinsson, Simon	3	$925,000
Söderblom, Elmer	2	$925,000
Wallinder, William	3	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Hague, Nicolas	3	$3,500,000
Zadina, Filip	2	$2,000,000
Stephens, Mitchell	1	$950,000
Pearson, Chase	1	$950,000
Walman, Jake	1	$950,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Gagner, Sam	1	$950,000
Staal, Marc	1	$950,000
Koskinen, Mikko	2	$2,500,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Cooley, Logan		3	$925,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Hague, Nicolas	$3,500,000	2023 2nd round pick

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
Tyler Bertuzzi: $2,375,000 (50%)
Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

DRAFT YEAR	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$82,500,000	$60,523,056	$0	$3,775,000	$21,976,944

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $2,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas $925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000 LW UFA - 2	Veleno, Joseph $894,167 C RFA - 1	Zadina, Filip $2,000,000 RW, LW RFA - 3
Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Suter, Pius $3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
Smith, Givani $750,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Sundqvist, Oskar $2,750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam $950,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hague, Nicolas $3,500,000 LD RFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333 RD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Edvinsson, Simon $925,000 LD RFA - 3	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Koskinen, Mikko $2,500,000 G UFA
Staal, Marc $950,000 LD UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $850,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Oesterle, Jordan $1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000 LW, C UFA - 3
Erne, Adam $2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Pearson, Chase $950,000 C UFA - 1
Stephens, Mitchell $950,000 C RFA - 1

Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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I just can't see Stevie going down the offer sheet road.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:25 p.m.

Rew77

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I would only offer sheet one year at a price that won't get matched. Then re-sign to a multi year contract for less $$$

Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:35 p.m.

Billy12Bob

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I would argue against it for the following reasons:

1. We already have 8 young LD with a good to excellent chance of being good NHL defenders. Another youngster isn't what this team needs right now.
2. Hague is 23 years old and isn't a player that can teach Hronek to play defense nor is he someone that can mentor Seider, those are the two biggest requirements we should look for when acquiring a LD.
3. There is a high likelyhood that we have better players than Hague already in our system.
4. There are cheaper alternatives that fit our requirements better.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:43 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Rew77

I would only offer sheet one year at a price that won't get matched. Then re-sign to a multi year contract for less $$$

That's essentially what Carolina is doing with Kotkaniemi.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.

aedoran

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The Wings have too many unknowns right now if you are going to offer sheet someone it's that last piece that is going to put you over the top.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.

aedoran

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

That's essentially what Carolina is doing with Kotkaniemi.

But Montreal did offer sheet Aho in 2019 so there was also a bit of payback there.

Apr. 16, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.

Jfstompers

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Mangiapane if they re sign gaudreau and Tkachuk.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.

Lancebmx

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If I was going to offer sheet a defenceman I would honestly look at Liljegren. If it went through then maybe we could trade Hronek for a good centre.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 4:09 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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The NHL would be a lot more interesting if GMs and owners weren't giant babies and strategically offersheeted often

Apr. 16, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.

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Billy12Bob

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Quoting: Lancebmx

If I was going to offer sheet a defenceman I would honestly look at Liljegren. If it went through then maybe we could trade Hronek for a good centre.

I've been having the same thoughts. It's an interesting proposition.

Apr. 16, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.

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MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: aedoran

But Montreal did offer sheet Aho in 2019 so there was also a bit of payback there.

Yep. Canes pretended it wasn't payback but everyone knew it was.

Apr. 16, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.

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MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

The NHL would be a lot more interesting if GMs and owners weren't giant babies and strategically offersheeted often

I agree.

Apr. 16, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.

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Lancebmx

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

I've been having the same thoughts. It's an interesting proposition.

He's looked decent this year and I think think he's already better than Hronek defensively. I also think Hronek being young would have quite a bit of value.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.

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TampaBayLightning22

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Yeah Yzerman isn't the type to go down the offer sheet road, So pass on the offer sheet of Hague.

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Apr. 16, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.

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Lancebmx

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Quoting: Jfstompers

Mangiapane if they re sign gaudreau and Tkachuk.

That would be interesting

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