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Created by: amigos71
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 17, 2022
Published: Apr. 17, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
the offersheet is done after the 2022 nhl draft
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,000,000
3$1,700,000
3$1,000,000
5$6,000,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,500,000
2$850,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
wright, shane
3$925,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Puljujärvi, Jesse$6,000,000
2023 1st round pick
2023 3rd round pick
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
not sure about Barron's value so i might have undervalued. sorry
2.
MTL
SEA
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
3.
MTL
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
4.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
i chose toronto for this one but it could be any team in search of a 1b goalie
5.
MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,250,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the ANA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the STL
2023
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$78,641,665$1,132,500$2,627,500$3,858,335

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
wright, shane
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$825,000$825,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$825,000$825,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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I get what you’re trying to do by making the deal after the 2022 draft…but that 2023 first is going to be a very high one too.
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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You won't return a positive asset if you manage to dump Armia.
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:02 p.m.
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I get what you’re trying to do by making the deal after the 2022 draft…but that 2023 first is going to be a very high one too.


i know it hurts... but i feel like with guys like puljujarvi and letang we will finish out of the lottery pick
Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:04 p.m.
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You won't return a positive asset if you manage to dump Armia.


i mean dumping him won't cost a 2. i gave a better pick so they would include barron
Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:08 p.m.
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i know it hurts... but i feel like with guys like puljujarvi and letang we will finish out of the lottery pick


Oh, god no. That team is still 100% a lottery team. There’s no shot that team jumps over toronto, tampa, florida, and boston, which means that the only hope is for a second wildcard spot. I don’t think theres much of a chance of jumping over the caps and islanders either. Ottawa should be squarely ahead of the habs, and buffalo probably would be as well.
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:10 p.m.
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Oh, god no. That team is still 100% a lottery team. There’s no shot that team jumps over toronto, tampa, florida, and boston, which means that the only hope is for a second wildcard spot. I don’t think theres much of a chance of jumping over the caps and islanders either. Ottawa should be squarely ahead of the habs, and buffalo probably would be as well.


i see this team competing for playoffs but not making it. i just meant that we won't have alot of chance to be top 3
Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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i see this team competing for playoffs but not making it. i just meant that we won't have alot of chance to be top 3


Okay, well lottery teams are non-playoff teams just by definition. Playoffs is an afterthought for this team after the first 15 games.
Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:14 p.m.
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Okay, well lottery teams are non-playoff teams just by definition. Playoffs is an afterthought for this team after the first 15 games.


if there's not alot of injury's i really think they can be the trouble-making team that stays close from a playoff spot
Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:15 p.m.
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if there's not alot of injury's i really think they can be the trouble-making team that stays close from a playoff spot


Lol sure. If five or six teams all have crippling injuries to key players, and the habs stay healthy, maybe. Better to just keep those picks.

This team you’ve put together is probably a front runner for last in the east.
Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:15 p.m.
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i know it hurts... but i feel like with guys like puljujarvi and letang we will finish out of the lottery pick


Can't imagine this team beats out one of Toronto, Florida, Tampa or Boston... Plus Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit are on the rise. The Atlantic is a rough division, really the entire Eastern Conference is rough.

Giving Puljujärvi $6m is also pretty bold. The guy is .5 point per game while playing with McDavid and that's with scoring going WAY up this season, league-wide.
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
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i mean dumping him won't cost a 2. i gave a better pick so they would include barron


Dumping 3 years of Armia will likely cost more than a 2nd and the Jets have no cap space to take him.
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 10:25 p.m.
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I think MTL should relax on the offer sheets for a while…
Last one didn’t go so great
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 11:20 p.m.
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So You do not think Edmonton Offers
5.25x3 giving JP A take home pay hike over the 6.you offered 5.25 with Alberta's tax rate of 15% he'd take home $4,462,500 compared to Quebec 33% which is a take home of $4,000,000 Meaning he takes home almost half a million more making 3/4 million less
Apr. 18, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
So You do not think Edmonton Offers
5.25x3 giving JP A take home pay hike over the 6.you offered 5.25 with Alberta's tax rate of 15% he'd take home $4,462,500 compared to Quebec 33% which is a take home of $4,000,000 Meaning he takes home almost half a million more making 3/4 million less


Sorry, personal tax rates don't mean much. Why do you think people....especially athletes (entertainers) pay personal rates in the province where they work....some of the time?
Apr. 18, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.
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The jets literally just acquired Barron I doubt they ship him out. Also he’s looked good
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Apr. 18, 2022 at 12:48 a.m.
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Sorry, personal tax rates don't mean much. Why do you think people....especially athletes (entertainers) pay personal rates in the province where they work....some of the time?


You're trying to tell me Quebec doesn't tax Canadiens players income)? I looked into this before in the US you pay state taxes for each game where it's played so any game you play say new york you pay NY taxes on games in CA you pay CA taxes on what you make for that game. However during my research i found Canada only taxes provincially to where the team is located so Canadiens players only pay Quebec not Alberta or Ontario .
Apr. 18, 2022 at 6:42 a.m.
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Armia is a cap dump, and it likely takes a second to dump him, so the Habs won’t be getting a positive return in a cap dump move by getting Barron for free. It just doesn’t happen. For Hoffman, that also likely costs a second rounder to move, since the era for one dimensional players is behind us. Dallas doesn’t make any move for Petry that doesn’t include retention. Toronto will definitely need retention on Allen. I doubt the Oilers are desperate enough to pay a third for a question mark in Drouin, but hey if they did, it wouldn’t be their first big mistake.
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Apr. 18, 2022 at 7:19 a.m.
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You're trying to tell me Quebec doesn't tax Canadiens players income)? I looked into this before in the US you pay state taxes for each game where it's played so any game you play say new york you pay NY taxes on games in CA you pay CA taxes on what you make for that game. However during my research i found Canada only taxes provincially to where the team is located so Canadiens players only pay Quebec not Alberta or Ontario .


It seems only CapFriendly folks are so worried about Canadian personal income taxes. We never hear about MLB or NBA players complain about Canadian taxes, when they sign here, or even when they are traded from an American team to Toronto. I've known Canadians who have worked/lived in Ontario, but claimed residence in Alberta (when the tax rate was lower in Alberta) so they paid the lower taxes. Generally, Canadian tax rates are based upon residence, not where you earn the income.
The other main factor is that the players are incorporated as "entertainers" and can shelter much of their income from immediate taxes, and not paid personal income rates on their income. I know one NHLer who had twelve year career, made I would say made 20m and was able to shelter all of that 20m and not pay taxes on it, since he never withdrew any money. He lived "modestly" on other NHL income had a house in his three cities he lived in, a condo in Toronto, and was married and had three children.
Apr. 18, 2022 at 10:21 a.m.
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It seems only CapFriendly folks are so worried about Canadian personal income taxes. We never hear about MLB or NBA players complain about Canadian taxes, when they sign here, or even when they are traded from an American team to Toronto. I've known Canadians who have worked/lived in Ontario, but claimed residence in Alberta (when the tax rate was lower in Alberta) so they paid the lower taxes. Generally, Canadian tax rates are based upon residence, not where you earn the income.
The other main factor is that the players are incorporated as "entertainers" and can shelter much of their income from immediate taxes, and not paid personal income rates on their income. I know one NHLer who had twelve year career, made I would say made 20m and was able to shelter all of that 20m and not pay taxes on it, since he never withdrew any money. He lived "modestly" on other NHL income had a house in his three cities he lived in, a condo in Toronto, and was married and had three children.


NBA & MLB Have 1 team each and i know of no similar sight for either.
Apr. 18, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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Jets Decline
No need for Armia or his cap hit/contract
Jets aren’t moving Barron
 
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