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The next great Darcy in Toronto

Created by: leafs101
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2022
Published: Apr. 19, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Engvall, Pierre2$1,750,000
Sandin, Rasmus2$1,750,000
Liljegren, Timothy2$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kuemper, Darcy3$6,500,000
Blackwell, Colin2$900,000
Giordano, Mark1$750,000
Lyubushkin, Ilya3$2,000,000
Mikheyev, Ilya3$3,000,000
Benn, Jordie1$900,000
Jones, Martin1$900,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Myers, Phillipe1$900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2022 6th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (WPG)
2.
TOR
  1. 2022 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Holl, Justin
3.
TOR
  1. 2022 4th round pick (ANA)
Lindholm hole being filled for cheap. Veteran leadership for young team.
ANA
  1. Muzzin, Jake
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$82,680,616$212,500$0-$180,616

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$3,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,750,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Clifford, Kyle
$762,500
LW
UFA - 2
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Blackwell, Colin
$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Lyubushkin, Ilya
$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Kuemper, Darcy
$6,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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Sandin, Rasmus
$1,750,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Källgren, Erik
$750,000
G
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,750,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Myers, Phillipe
$900,000
Benn, Jordie
$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Jones, Martin
$900,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Abruzzese, Nick
$850,000 ($0)
C
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marner, M.
Tavares, J.
Nylander, W.
Rielly, M.
Matthews, A.
Power Play 2
Mikheyev, I.
Kerfoot, A.
Bunting, M.
Giordano, M.
Liljegren, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Kämpf, D.
Marner, M.
Giordano, M.
Brodie, T.
Penalty Kill 2
Kerfoot, A.
Mikheyev, I.
Rielly, M.
Lyubushkin, I.

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Apr. 19 at 10:34 a.m.
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Giordano isn't going to sign for league minimum
Apr. 19 at 10:35 a.m.
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Here's a list of things to consider when proposing a Muzzin trade:
-Does he have a full NTC? (Yes)

That's it. That's the list. You could probably add something along the lines of "Is the team that he's alledgedly waiving his full NTC for a bonified Stanley Cup contender?", to which the answer would be "No, they're more likely to get a top 4 pick next year than a wild card spot, but that's kind of irrelevant given the full NTC part.
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Apr. 19 at 10:36 a.m.
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Not a fan of that 4th line tbh. Robertson likely makes it full time; and instead of signing J Benn it makes more sense to find a better 4th liner for that price
Apr. 19 at 10:42 a.m.
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Canucks pass Holl is a cap dump
Apr. 19 at 10:52 a.m.
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Canucks pass Holl is a cap dump


he'd be the best RD on the Canucks outside of *maybe* Schenn.
Apr. 19 at 10:53 a.m.
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Here's a list of things to consider when proposing a Muzzin trade:
-Does he have a full NTC? (Yes)

That's it. That's the list. You could probably add something along the lines of "Is the team that he's alledgedly waiving his full NTC for a bonified Stanley Cup contender?", to which the answer would be "No, they're more likely to get a top 4 pick next year than a wild card spot, but that's kind of irrelevant given the full NTC part.


that's fair. But his full NTC turns into 10 team after this year, might be willing to waive now to get a move over with if it seems inevitable. My thought with ANA is that they could use the Lindholm replacement for cheap, and Muzzin might waive because he lived in LA for so long which is very close to Anaheim. Might be willing to go back there where him and his family would be very familiar.
Apr. 19 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
he'd be the best RD on the Canucks outside of *maybe* Schenn.


Myers and Schenn are miles better then him
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Apr. 19 at 11:09 a.m.
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he'd be the best RD on the Canucks outside of *maybe* Schenn.


That’s really not saying much. Holl is awful that doesn’t change anything
Apr. 19 at 11:39 a.m.
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that's fair. But his full NTC turns into 10 team after this year, might be willing to waive now to get a move over with if it seems inevitable. My thought with ANA is that they could use the Lindholm replacement for cheap, and Muzzin might waive because he lived in LA for so long which is very close to Anaheim. Might be willing to go back there where him and his family would be very familiar.


This isn't me trying to be a d1ck (it's sometimes hard to tell with people on here...), but I think you've gotta step back and think "How big of a stretch do I have to make on a point to convince myself that he'd waive to go anywhere, let alone a lotto team?".

Muzzin is from Ontario-He grew up in Ontario. He played Jr. in Ontario. I'm not an expert on his friends and family, but I'd have to imagine the likelihood is pretty high that waiving to go to Anaheim would actually move him *away* from his friends and family, as well as away from an area that I'd assume he's extremely familiar with.

And I get it-Muzzin being traded out is a super convenient way to dump a $5.65 cap hit off the books allow you to sign a goalie and keep Gio/Boosh, but the justification just doesn't make sense. Do they trade him when the full NTC changes? Who knows.

Flip to Anaheim's perspective here for a second too-2 years of Muzzin doesn't fit the timeline. If they really think they need a veteran dman to come in (They've already got Fowler and Shatty, as well as a number of other veterans in the lineup, so I'm not really sure why you'd take time away from the younger dman LD's like Vaak/Benoit/Mahura/potentially Zellweger the following year/potentially whoever they get in the draft/etc.), then you sign a free agent that better fits the timeline. Or, alternatively, you continue to pick up a dump here and there with a pick attached.
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Apr. 19 at 2:14 p.m.
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This isn't me trying to be a d1ck (it's sometimes hard to tell with people on here...), but I think you've gotta step back and think "How big of a stretch do I have to make on a point to convince myself that he'd waive to go anywhere, let alone a lotto team?".

Muzzin is from Ontario-He grew up in Ontario. He played Jr. in Ontario. I'm not an expert on his friends and family, but I'd have to imagine the likelihood is pretty high that waiving to go to Anaheim would actually move him *away* from his friends and family, as well as away from an area that I'd assume he's extremely familiar with.

And I get it-Muzzin being traded out is a super convenient way to dump a $5.65 cap hit off the books allow you to sign a goalie and keep Gio/Boosh, but the justification just doesn't make sense. Do they trade him when the full NTC changes? Who knows.

Flip to Anaheim's perspective here for a second too-2 years of Muzzin doesn't fit the timeline. If they really think they need a veteran dman to come in (They've already got Fowler and Shatty, as well as a number of other veterans in the lineup, so I'm not really sure why you'd take time away from the younger dman LD's like Vaak/Benoit/Mahura/potentially Zellweger the following year/potentially whoever they get in the draft/etc.), then you sign a free agent that better fits the timeline. Or, alternatively, you continue to pick up a dump here and there with a pick attached.


100%. Only way he'd waive is *maybe* if Anaheim is allowed under his 10 team NTC that will kick in at the end of next season (his full NT becomes a 10 team NTC after 2022-23). But you're right he may just ride it out and hope to stay in Toronto for the whole contract. And, maybe it doesn't work for ANA, but I do think he'd be a good guy for a young team that could use some minute munchers, whether its ANA or maybe someone else.
Apr. 19 at 2:19 p.m.
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Myers and Schenn are miles better then him


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That’s really not saying much. Holl is awful that doesn’t change anything


wouldn't say he's "miles". Holl gets a lot of flack but he's still an effective 3rd pair guy that can and has played top 4 minutes (has excelled in them with the right partner). I'm pretty confident someone will pay that price. Gets a lot of flack from Leafs fans because, well, we're now a top 3 (by points %) team in the league and fans expect perfection. Plus, the young guys like Liljegren have taken a step and moved past him on the depth chart.
Apr. 19 at 3:29 p.m.
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he'd be the best RD on the Canucks outside of *maybe* Schenn.


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