Why would Muzzin waive for Ottawa? And Detroit passes we don't need Kampf.

Keeping Nylander isn't really a cap issue, its a playstyle issue. He is very much a North - South player, and doesn't have a very strong cycle game, while the Leafs top lines all play a strong cycle style now rather than relying on rush chances. Nylander just doesn't fit the style of hockey the team plays anymore.

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2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
Could see Muzzin spending the rest of his career on Robidas Island after this season. Best case you get a mid round pick for him.
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Muzzin, Jake


Not from Ottawa, not from anyone

why would you trade Kampf and replace him with domi? Domi is barely outscoring him and isnt 1/10th as good defensivly. oh and he cant play center. and deslauriers is horrible

how on earth does a guy with 32 goals and 74 points not fit a teams style? that makes no sense at all

Just take a second to look how he's scoring. 40% of those points are on the PP, much higher than is normal for a player. At even strength, this is actually Nylander's worst season in awhile despite the career numbers.

so what? that doesnt mean he fits the team it means he's having good power play luck this year and poor 5v5 luck and it's balancing out. Saying he doesnt fit the team because his power play scoring is up is a hell of a reach. He fits the team fine and is a big part of why they are so good

Just look at how he's fit the team. He can't play on the Matthews line, he can't play with Tavares. His spot is now on the 3rd line. That's why he doesn't fit the Leafs playstyle.

yeah, you're just hunting for stuff now. the dude is literally a point per game player right now and you wanna say he doesnt fit on the team for some reason.

So you can't address what I'm saying so you just dodge it? I shouldn't be surprised. The team has made it clear with his usage. He can't play with Tavares as we've seen in his 5on5 play this season. He's not going to replace Marner with Matthews. Where is left for him? He's a 3rd liner on the Leafs because his playstyle doesn't fit in the top 6 anymore. You might not like it because you are a Nylander fan but those are the facts.

Detroit isn't looking to add depth players, pass.

Why the hell would we trade Kampf? He fits the checking defensive style that teams kill for in their bottom 6 (ex. Coleman, Goodrow). If he was to be traded, which he absolutely shouldn’t, he’s worth a lot more than a 4th

NTC Muzzin is untradable, it's not hard to figure that his 5.6m stays a Leafs. Way too much unnecessary love for Comtois.

address it eh? sure why not1 He "cant" play with matthews because marner is there at evens, yet he's a huge part of that matthews run power play. He 'cant' play with tavares yet has 30 of his 45 even strength points with him?
he got moved to the 3rd line to spread out the scoring and his line has actually outscored the tavares line since the change, so how does he not fit on the team? How does a guy who scores where ever he goes, and improves every line and every power play he's on not fit the team?

Because he's generating less shots than normal, less chances than normal, etc, etc, etc. And the big one is he's allowing more goals against than he is scoring despite a career high in goals scored and points. Leafs are paying their top 4 forwards an unsustainable portion of the cap and they can't afford for one of them to not have a place in the top 6. If Nylander has found his place with the 3rd line, like he wasn't able to with Tavares as we've seen from the stats and team choices, that's not going to work for the cap situation the Leafs have put themselves in. On that 3rd line his time on ice has dropped significantly. Down to 11.9/game at even strength. That's not something a cap strapped team can afford to have a 7 mil cap hit.

Biggest issue with this ACGM is that everyone you're signing is taking an absolute bargain basement deal.

Holtby is going to get more than $1.5M from someone considering he's putting up his best numbers since 2018-19 (.913 SV%, 2.78 GAA, 3.9 GSAA), and there are slim pickings out there in UFA goalies this summer (basically MAF, Kuemper, and Campbell ahead of Holtby and a ton of backups or worse behind him.) I can't see him taking a cut from his current $2M AAV.

Marchment is 27 and has bounced around a ton before breaking out this year. I don't think this contract is insanely low, but I think he's going to try and maximize what might be his one shot at a big deal. Someone will get crazy and give him a $4M AAV deal. Blackwell is in a similar boat - he's 29 and never made above the league minimum. He's proven himself to be a decent roster player this year, though, and I think he can get $1.5M somewhere out there to play a strong defensive bottom 6 role.

Domi is a divisive player, sure, and probably doesn't replicate his current deal, but $2.25M is such a cut from his current $5.3M that I'd be shocked to see that be his number. Someone is going to see his 72 point season from 3 years ago and say "I bet I can get that out of him" and throw $3M+ at him.

I think it's not crazy to think that maybe you snag one of those guys at a bargain price, but getting all 4 below market value is really wishful thinking.

So he's producing more despite less ice time and poorer linemates after being with tavares who was shooting like 2% for a month and he's the issue?
Yeah, no. He fits the team anywhere he can play.
And trading him makes the team worse, you cant replace his value with anything realistic you can do with the cap space.

Well no, he's producing more because he's getting more PP time on a stacked unit. It's a mirage. We've already covered this. He's producing less at even strength. Here, someone made a viz for it, maybe it will help ypu:

Ok and? So what if he fits best on the 3rd? Has elevated the play of the bottom 6, makes the team far deeper as true 3 line offensive threat having at least one point per game player on each line (JT 1 point shy but we'll call it p/pg for this argument's sake, close enough), while still getting the same minutes on PP1 and because Keefe still works him into the top 6. He helps the team just the same scoring a ton on the 3rd. Plus I mean he and JT were only a few points shy of a P/PG playing together.

You can't say a guy putting up 30+ goals, point per game, having a career year, doesn't "fit". You make it work when you have a player of his calibre. And so far, it's been working pretty well.

facts. leads team in PP points to add to the PP comment.

Because you are paying a player who's playing under 12 minutes a night at even strength 7 million a year. That is not a sustainable cap allotment. On the 3rd line, Nylander is playing less than Kerfoot, Engvall, Mikheyev and Kampf.

Interesting in order to keep Nylander (by this post). Muzzin magically disappears, Leafs get weaker at centre, (no Kampf/Kerfoot) Leafs get weaker at wing (no Engvall/Mikheyev). and just six NHL Dmen with 21 man roster/

Detroit passes