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BOG Agenda

****BOG OPENINGS TO COME - DROP YOUR NAME IN TO BE CONSIDERED FOR POSITION BY THE 12TH

BOG Members Leaving:
matt59 (August 14th)
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GMs Who Applied For BOG:
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Votes:

1) To place boltscharge17 on Level 1 of Infraction System: 3-0: Booth Turner Zach in favour

2) To place DirtyDangles on Level 2 (again): 2-2

Other:
1) GM Game Awards: to discuss further after FA
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Jul. 2, 2017 at 7:42 p.m.
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Jus to confirm: Draft order for next year is based off of real life standings and the real draft lottery, right?

Has not been decided yet


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Jul. 2, 2017 at 10:05 p.m.
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Once we have free agency over and done with, we can begin trying to sort out a second version of the game. We need to get some feedback on how what we're trying for FA works before proceeding with any finalities.


I think once we start thinking about a version 2 we should "sit down" with Bank, Jarvis, the BOG and any other GMs to dicusss the whole process and any improvements we could try to make before that sting version 2. Also we should work out a way to not win the game but like rank the different teams or vote in which ones everyone likes based on different factors like current roster and future projections.

Agree. Take some ideas from this game and refine/ add input to to make better. For version two we want to make sure we take our time and do things right. No need to rush and overlook stuff.
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:09 a.m.
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GM Game Free Agency

Submitting the Bid
1. Submit the player name, salary per year (AAV), and number of years (Term) you wish to sign a player for. You may not submit a term greater than outlined below, based on the AAV of your offer.

1 year deal - AAV Range : 650,000 - 1,500,000
2 year deal - AAV Range : 1,500,000 - 2,500,000
3 year deal - AAV Range : 2,500,000 - 4,000,000
4 year deal - AAV Range : 4,000,000 - 5,250,000
5 year deal - AAV Range : 5,250,000 - 6,500,000
6 year deal - AAV Range : 6,500,000 - 7,750,000
7 year deal - AAV Range : 7,500,000 - 10,007,692

2. If a player falls between the following age groups, these are the term and AAV restrictions:

35-38 - AAV Range : 650,000 - 7,000,000 ; Year Range : 1-3
38-40 - AAV Range : 650,000 - 6,000,000 ; Year Range : 1-2
40+ - AAV Range : 650,000 - 5,000,000 ; Year Range : 1

*Improper Bids will result in automatic disqualification from signing a particular player*
Proper Bid :
Vegas Golden Knights - Pepe Silvia : 4,000,000 AAV x 5 years
Improper Bid :
Vegas Golden Knights - Pepe Silvia : 2,500,000 AAV x 4 years

Determining Highest Bid
1. The team with the contract that has the highest total money, wins the bid. If a team has a bid of 5M x 4 years compared to a bid of 4M x 3 years, the first bid wins as it has the best value. In the event of a tie, see the “Tiebreak Order” section.

Special Rights For Home and Vegas
1. Vegas will have the opportunity to match and raise the highest bid by a maximum of $500,000
2. The Home team, or the team currently owning the rights to the player, has the ability to match Vegas's bid and sign that player to a contract. If the Home team abstains from bidding, Vegas gets the player
3. In order for either Home or Vegas to retain their rights to match, they must also have submitted a bid on that player equal to at least 50% of the highest bid for that player in terms of AAV.
4. Home team gets 10% discount of the best offer if the best offer isn’t theirs. They can then match the discounted offer and keep their player, or let the opposing team get the played that was bid on at the original bid. Section 3 is a prerequisite for being able to get the 10% discount


Determining Where A Player Signs
The highest bid(s) in total value represents the contract(s) which the player will accept/sign. The team offering the final contract is determined as follows:
1. Order of teams that get priority of a FA:
a)The Home Team
b)if Home Team abstains, Vegas assumes Home’s Teams Rights and can match offers
c)the spread or field.
2. If there is a tie for highest bid, the team with waiver priority may evoke their priority and sign the player. If they do not, the next team with waiver priority is given the same option. If no team evokes their waiver priority, the first team may sign the player without evoking their priority. All other teams are eliminated once waiver priority is evoked, or the player has been offered to all teams and none have chosen to evoke priority.

Tiebreaker Order
1. Waiver order according to 2nd round draft rankings (non-lottery round). Waiver order will be used for waiver claims, FA tiebreaker, or any other situation where there is competition for a player's services.
a)When more than one team has equal right to a player, the team with higher priority may evoke their waiver priority to break the tie. If the team with the highest priority chooses not to evoke their waiver priority, the option is given to the team with the next highest priority.
b)If no team evokes waiver priority, the player goes to the team with the highest priority and does not cost them their position in the waiver order.
c)When a team evokes waiver priority, they win the claim and are moved to the end of the waiver priority list.

Buyouts
1. Prior to free agency, teams will have the option of buying out players. There will be a limit of two buyouts for each team during this period.
a) Teams will place up to 3 players on waivers for the purpose of a buyout. All teams will have the option of claiming these players, with no compensation to their current team.
b) In order to claim a player, you will have to evoke your waiver priority, regardless of whether there is another team competing for that player's services.
c) Claimed players will be traded to their new team for free and will not need to be bought out. They will retain their current contract terms (AAV and Term).
d) Unclaimed players may then be bought-out as normal on their rosters and will be added to the free agent pool.

FA Budget
Teams will have a budget entering free agency. In order to establish a team's UFA budget, they must reduce their roster to a 23 player compliance. The budget will then be calculated as follows:
a) Current remaining cap space
b) You are permitted to go over the cap ceiling by 10% or a to a max cap of 83.6 million. You must be within the cap floor and ceiling by the start of the GM Game for 2017-2018

FA Setup
1. Each team will publish an entire and complete list of the FAs that they wish to place bids on.

*You will not have a chance to edit your post*

*Publish a list of all the players you wish to bid on, you will not have the opportunity to bid on them if you do not publish the list prior to the start of FA Period*
a)Failure to publish your FA list will result in termination from FA Period. You will have no opportunity to place bids on any FA. NO EXCEPTIONS

List Submission Template
Pittsburgh Penguins

Forwards (3):
Pepe Silvia
Sam Hinkie
Michael Aquilini

Defensemen (2):
Jim Carrey
Steve Martin

Goalies (2):
Justin Adams
Chucky McChuckSkins

1. After all lists are published, the BOG will then calculate the most popular FA, and the player deemed most wanted, will be the first player that is to be bidded on. A runoff with be used after that, following with the next popular player.
a) in the event that only one team has listed a player, for example, COL is the only team to list Chalupa Batman. They then have the opportunity to sign them to a deal of their choosing, under the restrictions of the AAV Range/Year Chart.
2. See Ricochetti’s Spreadsheet for how to bid on players privately

Sign and Trade
1. Each team will have the opportunity to exercise their right to a Sign and Trade. You may only make Sign and Trades if you own the player’s rights prior to the start of Free Agency.
2. No player signed in Free Agency may be traded until January 1, 2018, unless you own the rights to the player that you bid on
3. If you acquire a player that you did not own the rights to, you are allowed to work out a deal with the previous owner of the player to be able to move the player as compensation to the owner. The BOG must be notified of such a deal before it takes place

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Not voting on this yet as it still needs work. Just an update for all those wondering where we are at
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Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:10 a.m.
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What is it with these darned bolded letters
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:16 a.m.
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BOG, we have received an infraction report. Please take a look at the report in the Infraction reporting thread. This would place Max on Level 2. 1-0 in favour of placing Max on Stage 2 of the Infraction system
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:20 a.m.
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I think the maximum salary should be adjusted to be higher. 10M is a lot but its not even the highest IRL..... It pretty much ensures that the home team and or Vegas will get any superstar that hits the market going forward. Not sure if Vegas will have that advantage in future years. I get that the point is to remove the crazy offers a GM might give but that should be the risk the pose that they might actually have to pay that player that bogus amount.

Lets be honest here, we're talking about Tavares.

As it stands now whomever gets his rights if RAIF trades him will most certainly get to keep Tavares almost guaranteed as long as they are compliant with the salary cap. What's the point in submitting a offer if all the teams in the league virtually will give max term and dollar off the start and only the home team has the advantage here?
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:21 a.m.
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I think the maximum salary should be adjusted to be higher. 10M is a lot but its not even the highest IRL..... It pretty much ensures that the home team and or Vegas will get any superstar that hits the market going forward. Not sure if Vegas will have that advantage in future years. I get that the point is to remove the crazy offers a GM might give but that should be the risk the pose that they might actually have to pay that player that bogus amount.

Lets be honest here, we're talking about Tavares.

As it stands now whomever gets his rights if RAIF trades him will most certainly get to keep Tavares almost guaranteed as long as they are compliant with the salary cap. What's the point in submitting a offer if all the teams in the league virtually will give max term and dollar off the start and only the home team has the advantage here?


the way I determined the highest AAV hit, I took the top 5 highest cap hits and divided by 5
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:24 a.m.
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4. Home team gets 10% discount of the best offer if the best offer isn’t theirs. They can then match the discounted offer and keep their player, or let the opposing team get the played that was bid on at the original bid. Section 3 is a prerequisite for being able to get the 10% discount


Don't know where this came from, but it's an unnecessary complication.
Or the 10,007,692 amount.

... Just realized this isn't my post for FA.

Are you guys making changes?
Are we using threads instead of spreadsheets for bidding?

If you want to change things, that's fine, but I can't work everything into the system and I definitely won't be involved with manual figuring out who is involved in bidding for players.
So if I'm setting up the system and there are changes, I need to at least be able to let you know if it's possible or not, unless someone else has already figured something else out.

If I don't need to be involved, that's great by me. Let me know so I'm not wasting time on things though. grin
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:28 a.m.
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I think the maximum salary should be adjusted to be higher. 10M is a lot but its not even the highest IRL..... It pretty much ensures that the home team and or Vegas will get any superstar that hits the market going forward. Not sure if Vegas will have that advantage in future years. I get that the point is to remove the crazy offers a GM might give but that should be the risk the pose that they might actually have to pay that player that bogus amount.

Lets be honest here, we're talking about Tavares.

As it stands now whomever gets his rights if RAIF trades him will most certainly get to keep Tavares almost guaranteed as long as they are compliant with the salary cap. What's the point in submitting a offer if all the teams in the league virtually will give max term and dollar off the start and only the home team has the advantage here?


the way I determined the highest AAV hit, I took the top 5 highest cap hits and divided by 5


Fair enough but do you see my point? This system works fine for any player that is worth less than 10M but if ever it gets to a superstar where many teams would give max term and money to, the home team almost certainly gets the player as his offer would be pretty much the same thing. Basically no superstar free agent will ever be signed by a new team ever.....
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:29 a.m.
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4. Home team gets 10% discount of the best offer if the best offer isn’t theirs. They can then match the discounted offer and keep their player, or let the opposing team get the played that was bid on at the original bid. Section 3 is a prerequisite for being able to get the 10% discount


Don't know where this came from, but it's an unnecessary complication.
Or the 10,007,692 amount.

... Just realized this isn't my post for FA.

Are you guys making changes?
Are we using threads instead of spreadsheets for bidding?

If you want to change things, that's fine, but I can't work everything into the system and I definitely won't be involved with manual figuring out who is involved in bidding for players.
So if I'm setting up the system and there are changes, I need to at least be able to let you know if it's possible or not, unless someone else has already figured something else out.

If I don't need to be involved, that's great by me. Let me know so I'm not wasting time on things though. grin


I would be willing to run FA, if the BOG needs help. I adapted the system you had, meaning the FA Plan
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:30 a.m.
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the way I determined the highest AAV hit, I took the top 5 highest cap hits and divided by 5


Fair enough but do you see my point? This system works fine for any player that is worth less than 10M but if ever it gets to a superstar where many teams would give max term and money to, the home team almost certainly gets the player as his offer would be pretty much the same thing. Basically no superstar free agent will ever be signed by a new team ever.....

The uppermost limit could be adjusted on a yearly basis. For at least this seasons UFA, none should be making more than 8 million, so a little over 10 is a fair max cap for at least this season. Next season we'd need to adjust to around 14 million due to McDavid effect and Tavares being a possible UFA in the game.
Jul. 3, 2017 at 12:34 a.m.
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Fair enough but do you see my point? This system works fine for any player that is worth less than 10M but if ever it gets to a superstar where many teams would give max term and money to, the home team almost certainly gets the player as his offer would be pretty much the same thing. Basically no superstar free agent will ever be signed by a new team ever.....

The uppermost limit could be adjusted on a yearly basis. For at least this seasons UFA, none should be making more than 8 million, so a little over 10 is a fair max cap for at least this season. Next season we'd need to adjust to around 14 million due to McDavid effect and Tavares being a possible UFA in the game.


Yeah that makes more sense. This year is a down year for FA's so there shouldn't be a problem.
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:00 a.m.
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BOG, we have received an infraction report. Please take a look at the report in the Infraction reporting thread. This would place Max on Level 2. 1-0 in favour of placing Max on Stage 2 of the Infraction system

All BOG members, please vote
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:08 a.m.
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Also in addition to the vote running, Taiseis last post was Thurs at 1:09AM. It'll be 4 days since he last posted this morning. Just so we know...nuxfan would get the job if he doesn't show up anytime soon
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:09 a.m.
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2-0 Max on Stage 2
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:10 a.m.
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I say give Taisei a couple more days before we get hasty
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:11 a.m.
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I say give Taisei a couple more days before we get hasty

Agreed. Just pointing it out in case we have to deal with it. He's good for another 3 days anyways
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3-0 max on stage two. Just as a reminder, a stage 2 violation is the 24 hour cool down period.
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:23 a.m.
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Is it alright if I ask how me asking for a serious offer can be considered trolling, and why I'm the one getting called out for it when there have been other instances similar to this that go under the radar?
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:25 a.m.
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Is it alright if I ask how me asking for a serious offer can be considered trolling, and why I'm the one getting called out for it when there have been other instances similar to this that go under the radar?

No it's not alright to ask. According to the infraction policy, it clearly states interventions are not allowed. Clearly you haven't read it, otherwise you wouldn't have two infractions
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No it's not alright to ask. According to the infraction policy, it clearly states interventions are not allowed. Clearly you haven't read it, otherwise you wouldn't have two infractions


It also says I'm allowed to make my case what I havent been allowed to do either time
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:27 a.m.
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No it's not alright to ask. According to the infraction policy, it clearly states interventions are not allowed. Clearly you haven't read it, otherwise you wouldn't have two infractions


It also says I'm allowed to make my case what I havent been allowed to do either time

Wrong again. It says you're only allowed to state your case if asked by the BOG. Another intervention and you'd be automatically placed into Stage 2
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Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:29 a.m.
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3-0 max on stage two. Just as a reminder, a stage 2 violation is the 24 hour cool down period.


4-0
Jul. 3, 2017 at 1:36 a.m.
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So Max has been placed on Level 2. I've let him know that if he comments during his 24 hour cool down, he'll be immediately going to level 3
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Hshunjan is ok or not ?
 
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