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Created by: Joxu

Team: 2022-23 Florida Panthers

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 23, 2022

Published: Apr. 23, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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EXAMPLE LINEUP

Three way trade:

FLA gets: Evgeni Dadonov (50% retained), Nicholas Hague
VAN gets: Patric Hörnqvist, Eetu Luostarinen, 2022 2nd round pick, 2023 3rd round pick and 2022 5th round pick
VGK gets: Juho Lammikko, Lucas Carlsson, Cole Schwindt, 2023 2nd round pick, 2022 4th round pick

Florida receives Dadonov who works as a replacement for Marchment who decides to take a good deal somewhere else, he can also provide veteran presence. Florida also gets Nicholas Hague, a young, big and good defenseman who can solidify their defense.

In this trade Vancouver gets draft picks; 2022 2nd round pick, 2023 3rd round pick and a 2022 5th round pick, on top of this they receive a young player in Eetu Luostarinen who's a very decent 4th line defensive forward and takes on the contract of a veteran who can provide the team grit and outstanding netfront play and be an impact in the locker room. .

Vegas gets two relatively young and cheap roster players in Juho Lammikko and Lucas Carlsson. They also get an alright prospect in Cole Schwindt and a 2023 2nd round pick + 2022 4th round pick, to replace for the lost draft picks in dumping Dadonov's contract.

It's my first time trying to make a three way trade so let me know how it could be improved or if the whole idea is just unrealistic.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Hague, Nicolas		3	$1,875,000
Heponiemi, Aleksi		2	$800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Acciari, Noel	2	$1,000,000
Mamin, Maxim	1	$750,000
Lindbohm, Petteri	1	$750,000

Trades

FLA

Dadonov (50% retained)

VAN

Hörnqvist, Patric
Luostarinen, Eetu [RFA Rights]
2024 5th round pick (PHI)

FLA

Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
Hague, Nicolas [RFA Rights]

VGK

Carlsson, Lucas [RFA Rights]
Schwindt, Cole
2022 4th round pick (FLA)
2023 2nd round pick (FLA)

Buyouts

Keith Yandle: $5,391,667
Scott Darling: $1,183,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$80,238,334	$637,500	$3,582,500	$2,261,666

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Verhaeghe, Carter $4,166,667$4,166,667 LW UFA - 3	Barkov, Aleksander $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Duclair, Anthony $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Huberdeau, Jonathan $5,900,000$5,900,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Lundell, Anton $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 2	Reinhart, Sam $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW UFA - 2
Dadonov, Evgeni $0$0 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Bennett, Sam $4,425,000$4,425,000 C UFA - 3	Denisenko, Grigori $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 1
		Mamin, Maxim $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA
Lomberg, Ryan $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Acciari, Noel $1,000,000$1,000,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Montour, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Ekblad, Aaron $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 3	Bobrovsky, Sergei $10,000,000$10,000,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Forsling, Gustav $2,666,667$2,666,667 LD UFA - 2	Weegar, MacKenzie $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Knight, Spencer $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) G RFA - 1
	Gudas, Radko $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Hague, Nicolas $1,875,000$1,875,000 LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Lindbohm, Petteri $750,000$750,000 LD UFA
Hutsko, Logan $867,500$867,500 ($32,500$32K) C RFA - 1
Heponiemi, Aleksi $800,000$800,000 LW, C RFA - 1

Apr. 23, 2022 at 5:13 a.m.

SupremeBone

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Edited Apr. 23, 2022 at 5:20 a.m.

I think FLA disproportionately benefits from this 3-way trade. They get out of a cap burden in Hornqvist AND get Dadonov and Hague at the cost of a bunch of easily replaceable assets- with the arguable exception of the 2nd. Ignoring that Hornqvist should probably cost a 2nd to be free of alone, an objective analysis of the pieces doesn't look like a package that'd approach even just Hague in value:

- a B or B+ prospect (solid but unspectacular)
- a 24-yr old bottom pairing Dman (not bad but pretty much every team has a comparable player or two)
- a young bottom-6 C (not hard to replace)
- a 4th round pick (close to a 5th)

Since your scenario already has VAN taking on cap burdens for picks (something I don't think they're looking to do, but let's entertain the idea), I think they'd be much better off simply taking a pick from Vegas for taking on Dadonov and foregoing all the extra work.

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Apr. 23, 2022 at 6:51 a.m.

Hockey91

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Quoting: SupremeBone

But hornqvist isn’t a cap dump. He’s still very valuable and has put up almost 40 points this year. The panthers are giving up a lot here.

Apr. 23, 2022 at 10:09 a.m.

SupremeBone

Joined: Jul. 2020

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Quoting: Hockey91

But hornqvist isn’t a cap dump. He’s still very valuable and has put up almost 40 points this year. The panthers are giving up a lot here.

Well, you're free to think that but 5.3mil for an aging 3rd liner isn't the kind of asset people line up to pay for. His "almost 40 points" (stretching the definition of "almost") also isn't all that much when you consider the absurdly strong offensive team FLA has had this year.

Further, whether something is considered a cap dump or not is also dependent on whether the continued presence of said player on the team limits the ability for the team to retain or build on their existing roster. The Panthers have ~4.8mil in cap space to replace much of their roster's depth and, without moving Hornqvist or another contract, they'd likely be stuck filling out their bottom-6 and 3rd pairing with sub-optimal options. For a contending team, that's not an ideal situation. As such, they would stand to benefit a lot from being free of Hornqvist's 5.3mil in cap hit as a replacement for him likely costs notably less.

This fact in conjunction with my earlier point regarding his performance not being close to worth 5.3mil means he's a cap dump- even if he has value as a player.

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Apr. 23, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.

Hockey91

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Posts: 2,083

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Quoting: SupremeBone

He plays very minimal minutes and pp minutes. On the right team he’ll do the same thing. He’ll be traded with a fourth or fifth for a third or fourth or he’ll be traded to a rebuilder for a late pick who will trade him 50% retained to. A team on his trade list.

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