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If Holland Drafted Better His Last Few Years

Created by: RealHavocc
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 24, 2022
Published: Apr. 24, 2022
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Team Explanation
This is just a fun little “What if?” Kind of post, this is not at all meant to be realistic, just showing what we could have had if our draft picks had been other players
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Svechnikov, Evgeny
WPG
    2.
    DET
    1. Cholowski, Dennis
    SEA
      3.
      DET
      1. Chychrun, Jakob
      ARI
      1. Hronek, Filip
      2. Cholowski, Dennis
      Additional Details:
      The pick used to select Chychrun was traded for the picks used to take these guys
      4.
      DET
      1. Turgeon, Dominic
      MIN
        5.
        DET
        1. Shesterkin, Igor
        NYR
        1. Turgeon, Dominic
        6.
        DET
        1. Aho, Sebastian
        CAR
        1. Svechnikov, Evgeny
        7.
        DET
        1. Thomas, Robert
        STL
        1. Rasmussen, Michael
        8.
        DET
        1. Hughes, Quinn
        VAN
        1. Zadina, Filip
        9.
        DET
        1. Fehérváry, Martin
        WSH
        1. Veleno, Joseph
        Buyouts
        • Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
        • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
        Retained Salary Transactions
        • Nick Leddy: $2,750,000 (50%)
        • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
        • Vladislav Namestnikov: $1,000,000 (50%)
        Buried
        • Thomas Greiss: $2,475,000 ($3,600,000)
        • Jordan Oesterle: $225,000 ($1,350,000)
        • Danny DeKeyser: $3,875,000 ($5,000,000)
        • Marc Staal: $875,000 ($2,000,000)
        DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
        2022
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        2023
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        2024
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        22$81,500,000$87,574,973$0$3,482,500-$6,074,973
        Left WingCenterRight Wing
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        Aho, Sebastian
        $8,460,250
        C, LW
        UFA - 3
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        Larkin, Dylan
        $6,100,000
        C
        UFA - 2
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        Raymond, Lucas
        $925,000
        RW, LW
        RFA - 3
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        Bertuzzi, Tyler
        $4,750,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
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        Thomas, Robert
        $2,800,000
        C, RW
        RFA - 2
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        Sundqvist, Oskar
        $2,750,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 2
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        Vrána, Jakub
        $5,250,000
        LW
        UFA - 3
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        Suter, Pius
        $3,250,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 2
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        Gagner, Sam
        $850,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
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        Fabbri, Robby
        $2,950,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 1
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        Stephens, Mitchell
        $737,500
        C
        RFA - 1
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        Erne, Adam
        $2,100,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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        Hughes, Quinn
        $7,850,000
        LD
        UFA - 6
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        Seider, Moritz
        $863,333
        RD
        RFA - 3
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        Shesterkin, Igor
        $5,666,667
        G
        UFA - 4
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        Fehérváry, Martin
        $791,667
        LD
        RFA - 2
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        Chychrun, Jakob
        $4,600,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 4
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        Nedeljkovic, Alex
        $3,000,000
        G
        UFA - 2
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        Walman, Jake
        $725,000
        LD
        RFA - 1
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        Lindström, Gustav
        $850,000
        RD
        RFA - 2
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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        Juolevi, Olli
        $750,000
        LD
        RFA - 1
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        Rowney, Carter
        $825,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
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        Hirose, Taro
        $850,000
        LW
        UFA - 1
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        Smith, Givani
        $750,000
        LW
        RFA - 2

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        Apr. 24 at 10:15 p.m.
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        Seiders on the Storm
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        Not drafting Chychrun and Hughes makes me sad. 😭

        Apr. 24 at 10:19 p.m.
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        Jetsfan
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        Every team is crying over Aho...2nd rounder wow
        Apr. 24 at 10:26 p.m.
        #3
        Go Bolts Go
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        Yeah Holland was the worst in drafting in those later years.
        Apr. 24 at 10:32 p.m.
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        Hindsight
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        Apr. 24 at 10:34 p.m.
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        Unwindulax
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        I mean sure looking at it years later I guess. If Holland went like off the board for guys like rass or zadina I could get people being mad but that's just how it goes sometimes.
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        Apr. 24 at 10:48 p.m.
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        Playing the woulda, coulda, shoulda game will kill you. Don’t do it.
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        Apr. 24 at 10:53 p.m.
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        Yes the draft isn't perfect and if it was it would be really really boring. Like if stats could tell you the whole story there would be no reason to play the games.

        If you spend your time looking back you will miss whats in front of you.
        Apr. 24 at 10:59 p.m.
        #8
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        Quoting: aedoran
        Yes the draft isn't perfect and if it was it would be really really boring. Like if stats could tell you the whole story there would be no reason to play the games.

        If you spend your time looking back you will miss whats in front of you.


        What's that? 6 consecutive seasons of missing the playoffs?
        Apr. 24 at 11:29 p.m.
        #9
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        Quoting: will9739
        Playing the woulda, coulda, shoulda game will kill you. Don’t do it.


        Holland’s days are far behind me, the least of my worries, just wanted to look into other guys we could have drafted in those spots and how the team would look with those players
        Apr. 24 at 11:58 p.m.
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        Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
        Not drafting Chychrun and Hughes makes me sad. 😭



        Oh don't be sad, at least you have Joulevi squinting with tongue out
        Apr. 24 at 11:59 p.m.
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        Quoting: WhereArtTLuongo
        Oh don't be sad, at least you have Joulevi squinting with tongue out


        🤣
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        Apr. 25 at 10:42 a.m.
        #12
        GM
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        I mean every team could do this. Any post 1st round pick is a toss up. If you want to be a lot more realistic, redo this with only 1st round picks within 5 choices.

        To elaborate, Shestekin was a 3rd rounder. It's like saying teams should've drafted Mark Stone, Kucherov, Point, etc before they actually were. Most picks during those selections could have been one of twenty or more prospects; meanwhile, most 1st rounders are usually any one of five.
        May 1 at 1:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: GM69
        I mean every team could do this. Any post 1st round pick is a toss up. If you want to be a lot more realistic, redo this with only 1st round picks within 5 choices.

        To elaborate, Shestekin was a 3rd rounder. It's like saying teams should've drafted Mark Stone, Kucherov, Point, etc before they actually were. Most picks during those selections could have been one of twenty or more prospects; meanwhile, most 1st rounders are usually any one of five.


        Turgeon was also a 3rd rounder
         
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