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Price and Weber Retire

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2022
Published: Apr. 25, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The premise here is that both Price & Weber retire and their salary comes off the cap giving the GM a clear direction and room to maneuver.

*** Since there is no way to remove a salary in Armchair GM - I traded them to Arizona. This is them retiring so please don't bite my head off for trading them to the Yotes' for nothing ***

Retiring:

-Weber (Knee & Foot)
-Price (Knee)

Buyouts:

-Drouin (Has become a distraction)

Trades:

-Petry (Get's his wish to move closer to his wife's family)
-Hoffman (Helps Seattle score some goals while they build their assets)
-Armia (Major Cap Dump)

Promotions:

-RHP (Gallagher 2.0)
-Ylonen (He looked good this year)
-Pezzetta (We love you Freak!)
-Schueneman (He looked good this year)

UFA Signings:

-Forsberg
-Letang
-Wideman (To give Barron, Guhle, Harris the chance to play in the AHL to start the year)

Draft:

-Wright
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,000,000
3$1,000,000
3$1,000,000
3$2,300,000
4$3,500,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$8,500,000
7$9,000,000
2$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane
3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
ARI
  1. Price, Carey
  2. Weber, Shea
Additional Details:
Using Arizona as a placeholder here. Price & Weber retire, they are NOT traded to the Yotes' for nothing so don't bite my head off!
2.
MTL
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
Petry gets his wish and moves near to his wife's family home
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff
Additional Details:
Dallas replaces RD they lost in offseason
3.
MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (SEA)
Additional Details:
Habs cut ties with a player that does not play the speedy style they are looking for and get some cap relief in the process
SEA
  1. Hoffman, Mike
Additional Details:
Seattle get a decent scoring winger on a short term deal
4.
MTL
    Columbus gets a player they've been interested in for a while plus some picks
    CBJ
    1. Armia, Joel
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (DAL)
    3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
    Additional Details:
    Habs pay big to dump Armia
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$82,500,000$72,535,833$1,132,500$850,000$9,964,167
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $2,300,000$2,300,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Wright, Shane
    $925,000$925,000
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $825,000$825,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2

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    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:14 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: jonh514
    Once again what I'm asking is: why do you assume the LTIR solution is possible. You are assuming the league will approve all LTIR requests, I am wondering what you are basing that on?


    There is no procedure for it. LTIR retirement is based on the health of the player in question. If they are too hurt to continue playing they will be placed on LTIR until the contract runs out if hurt playing hockey to allow access to medical care provided by the teams.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: AirmanSD
    There is no limit in season as far as I can tell. Hence the 17 million over the cap for the Lighting last season.


    I agree with you. Let's imagine the Oilers come the summer are very close to the cap. Then Draistail and McDavid total 21m have off season injuries and will out for the whole year. This 10% rule would just allow the Oilers to spend about 8.3m in replacement for the season. No, the Oilers could spend 21m in replacement players.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: AirmanSD
    There is no procedure for it. LTIR retirement is based on the health of the player in question. If they are too hurt to continue playing they will be placed on LTIR until the contract runs out if hurt playing hockey to allow access to medical care provided by the teams.


    I am fairly sure there is a component to approval that is a medical exam. If there is no hope of recovery, does the league approve LTIR or deny it? Like after this year... would they approve LTIR for Weber again next year?
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: AirmanSD
    There is no procedure for it. LTIR retirement is based on the health of the player in question. If they are too hurt to continue playing they will be placed on LTIR until the contract runs out if hurt playing hockey to allow access to medical care provided by the teams.


    But part of LTIR obligations falls on the player to actively try to get back medically fit. Panthers Luongo decide to retire. not LTIR, after hip surgery. He didn't want to the timeline that would be imposed on him for recovery to get NHL ready. Besides his contract was front loaded and he didn't that much money by retiring. Weber might take the same situation. Guess we'll know this summer.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    Once again what I'm asking is: why do you assume the LTIR solution is possible. You are assuming the league will approve all LTIR requests, I am wondering what you are basing that on?


    The entire history of the NHL. Carey Price isn’t going to retire. No shot. Players don’t leave that kind of money on the table. Either the league approves his LTIR, or he plays. There is no third option.
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    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    I am fairly sure there is a component to approval that is a medical exam. If there is no hope of recovery, does the league approve LTIR or deny it? Like after this year... would they approve LTIR for Weber again next year?


    Depends on a case by case basis, look at the Red Wings with Zetterberg and Franzen, ARI with Hossa, Tor with Clarkson, ect. all of the retired on LTIR from multiple years again there is no set procedure for it depends on each case and the medical review. Yes you do need league approval each season, and they have to go through a medical check each year.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    I agree with you. Let's imagine the Oilers come the summer are very close to the cap. Then Draistail and McDavid total 21m have off season injuries and will out for the whole year. This 10% rule would just allow the Oilers to spend about 8.3m in replacement for the season. No, the Oilers could spend 21m in replacement players.


    The could spend 21 million on replacements after they have submitted their start of the season roster to the NHL. They would start the year with both on the cap and they place them on LTIR after the "start" of the season and the sign/trade for their replacements.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    Sorry, I'll clarify: When a team submits a player to LTIR, doesn't this kick off an approval process that the league evaluates on a case by case basis? In those scenarios, does the league always approve to appease the PA?

    No. They could deny it. I haven’t heard of such a situation but its possible. But if it gets denied, he plays.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:32 p.m.
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    I'm just gonna respectfully say that I disagree with your premise and leave it at that. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. We'll know in a few months.


    This is objective. He’s right.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    I agree with you. Let's imagine the Oilers come the summer are very close to the cap. Then Draistail and McDavid total 21m have off season injuries and will out for the whole year. This 10% rule would just allow the Oilers to spend about 8.3m in replacement for the season. No, the Oilers could spend 21m in replacement players.


    There used to be an upper limit. The CBA has changed, and i haven’t really kept up with it. I’m pretty sure it was 15%, but I’m not sure what it is, if anything, currently.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    I am fairly sure there is a component to approval that is a medical exam. If there is no hope of recovery, does the league approve LTIR or deny it? Like after this year... would they approve LTIR for Weber again next year?


    If you remember a few years ago there was some controversy about Joffrey Lupul of the Leafs. He had been on LTIR for at least one year(maybe two). with a hernia problem. He had been seen surfing in California (his home). Leafs who were close to cap were worried about that NMC 5.25m Lupul would have deemed fit,,,,and now bad cap would be joining the club. The Leafs were fortunate that Lupul was deemed medically unfit to play, so he remained on LTIR
    To answer your question, teams, players, have to answer to the NHL (and their rules) and insurance companies whether a player is LTIR eligible. The length of LTIR can change and I imagine it's an ongoing process so the players get the best medical care, get paid, and the rules of the NHL are followed.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    The entire history of the NHL. Carey Price isn’t going to retire. No shot. Players don’t leave that kind of money on the table. Either the league approves his LTIR, or he plays. There is no third option.

    There is a third option.....though rarely used, is the player retires. Roberto Luongo retire, instead of going through the regiment of LTIR medical requirements. By his standards it wasn't all that much money as his contract was front loaded.....hence the Canucks are paying recapture penalties.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: AirmanSD
    The could spend 21 million on replacements after they have submitted their start of the season roster to the NHL. They would start the year with both on the cap and they place them on LTIR after the "start" of the season and the sign/trade for their replacements.


    I'll disagree. It would impossible for a team find 20m in two competent players. And no players are waiting till game to sign massive contract.
    Sorry, I think folks are really misreading the 10% or 15% restrictions. Teams are roster penalized by having injured players.
    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    There is a third option.....though rarely used, is the player retires. Roberto Luongo retire, instead of going through the regiment of LTIR medical requirements. By his standards it wasn't all that much money as his contract was front loaded.....hence the Canucks are paying recapture penalties.


    In this instance there is no third option. Luongo left $3ish mill on the table with career earnings north of $90M.

    Price isn’t leaving $31.25M on the table
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    Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:48 p.m.
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    I'll disagree. It would impossible for a team find 20m in two competent players. And no players are waiting till game to sign massive contract.
    Sorry, I think folks are really misreading the 10% or 15% restrictions. Teams are roster penalized by having injured players.


    I know that. But it is technically possible.
    Apr. 26, 2022 at 1:25 a.m.
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    The Jackets have no interest in Armia. The Jackets are looking for a top 6 center.
     
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