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May 22, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
What are the rest of the PK guys numbers? I don't know where to look this up.


GA/60 among forwards:
5.38 - Cirelli
5.07 - Paul
2.96 - Killorn
2.35 - Bellemare
------------------------------ Less than 5:00 TOI
0.00 - Hagel & Palat

FA/60 among forwards:
82.47 - Cirelli
74.33 - Paul
73.89 - Killorn
72.85 - Bellemare
------------------------------ Less than 5:00 TOI
36.99 - Palat
16.36 - Hagel

There's another stat I don't feel like typing out, but Killorn leads Cirelli in allowing high-danger chances on the PK.

To make note of, we have to account for Paul and Cirelli most often facing other team's PP1 unit, but even Paul has been a little better than Cirelli.

I use Natural Stat Trick for these stats.
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May 22, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
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Did you all know Cirelli has one point in 9.5 games?


Killer only has the two even strength assists. Which one should we be more worried about?
May 22, 2022 at 11:40 p.m.
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Killer only has the two even strength assists. Which one should we be more worried about?


Neither if we're being fair. They've both performed in the previous two seasons. As long as everyone else keeps up what they're doing, we have another gear to find offensively.

Still thinking Palat must be kept over Killorn though.
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May 23, 2022 at 1:15 a.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
Neither if we're being fair. They've both performed in the previous two seasons. As long as everyone else keeps up what they're doing, we have another gear to find offensively.

Still thinking Palat must be kept over Killorn though.


The better Paul plays the more I'm thinking we try and move killer.
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May 23, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.
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The better Paul plays the more I'm thinking we try and move killer.


I know Paul has been playing better, but I disagree there. Killer has been good for years for us. I think we just keep him one more year and let Paul walk. With how good Paul has been playing it's probably unrealistic to think we can afford him this offseason anyway
May 23, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.
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I know Paul has been playing better, but I disagree there. Killer has been good for years for us. I think we just keep him one more year and let Paul walk. With how good Paul has been playing it's probably unrealistic to think we can afford him this offseason anyway


I've got contracts for Paul and Palat at $3.5m and $4.0m, respectively, if we trade Killorn. Could probably add around $500k between them if needed. Otherwise, I'd probably keep Killorn and sign Paul.
May 23, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
I've got contracts for Paul and Palat at $3.5m and $4.0m, respectively, if we trade Killorn. Could probably add around $500k between them if needed. Otherwise, I'd probably keep Killorn and sign Paul.


Curious to see what Palat would be willing to take.. personally anything over 5 for any team is too much. He's only ever put up good number next to Kuch.
May 23, 2022 at 3:36 p.m.
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Curious to see what Palat would be willing to take.. personally anything over 5 for any team is too much. He's only ever put up good number next to Kuch.


Palat doesn't strike me as someone who'll drive a hard bargain. I'd offer him enough term to finish his career in Tampa with Kucherov and bet he accepts. Realistically I think his market value is about what he's currently paid.
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May 23, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.
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Palat doesn't strike me as someone who'll drive a hard bargain. I'd offer him enough term to finish his career in Tampa with Kucherov and bet he accepts. Realistically I think his market value is about what he's currently paid.


To further your point though, keeping Paul and sending Killorn along seems like the correct route. Will be interesting to see the return on him.
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May 23, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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Palat doesn't strike me as someone who'll drive a hard bargain. I'd offer him enough term to finish his career in Tampa with Kucherov and bet he accepts. Realistically I think his market value is about what he's currently paid.


As long as the other gm's aren't like some capfriendly people. Once I saw someone giving him 8.5.


That being said I could see him getting like 6.5 from someone
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May 23, 2022 at 8:22 p.m.
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Legit every time a doubt someone they jail the a goal next game. Killer!
May 23, 2022 at 8:32 p.m.
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Legit every time a doubt someone they jail the a goal next game. Killer!


Scatch that. :-P
May 23, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.
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Legit every time a doubt someone they jail the a goal next game. Killer!

Killorn and Cirelli both!
May 23, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.
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Kuch backchecking while Cirelli cherry picks? What in role reversal!
May 23, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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Hagel is due.
May 23, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.
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Vasy...
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May 23, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.
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So, of all the guys on the current roster, who's gonna be the Journeyman vet playing for some random contender for $1mil 4-5 years from now?
May 24, 2022 at 2:40 a.m.
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So, of all the guys on the current roster, who's gonna be the Journeyman vet playing for some random contender for $1mil 4-5 years from now?


Killorn or McDonagh
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May 24, 2022 at 9:50 a.m.
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Yes or no.

If Paul prices himself out, do we try to court Giroux to Tampa for a year or two to chase the cup? It'd be a big discount, but Gio just signed way below market with Toronto.
May 24, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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Yes or no.

If Paul prices himself out, do we try to court Giroux to Tampa for a year or two to chase the cup? It'd be a big discount, but Gio just signed way below market with Toronto.


34 vs 38. Might be a push to get him that cheap but if he fancies 3.5 mil
May 24, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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34 vs 38. Might be a push to get him that cheap but if he fancies 3.5 mil


Palat-Point-Giroux 🔥
May 24, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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34 vs 38. Might be a push to get him that cheap but if he fancies 3.5 mil


If we convince Giroux he qualifies for AARP
May 25, 2022 at 2:45 p.m.
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May 28, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
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Aaaaaaannd we're back. Wednesday June 1. Get stoked.
May 29, 2022 at 2:32 a.m.
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Edited May 29, 2022 at 2:58 a.m.
24-25 ACGMs are make-able now

I was so lost when I pulled it up a saw only Point and Kucherov under contract for forwards

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3289913

That's what I got for now. Still competitive as long Hedman and McDonagh don't have too badly, I think.
 
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