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Trading back in draft scenarios

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 29, 2022
Published: Apr. 30, 2022
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Was just curious what The Athletic's "NHL draft pick value chart" said about scenarios moving back in the draft.

On paper, most of these do not seem worth it. But the are interesting to consider. I think the best route is moving back a slot or two and adding a player or 2nd rounder (like Ottawa, Detroit, Buffalo scenarios).

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Here are NJD draft pick values
2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5) = 8.2
2022 2nd round pick (NJD - #37) = 2.3
2022 3rd round pick (NJD - #69) = 0.9
2022 4th round pick (NJD - #101) = 0.5
2022 4th round pick (NYI - #109) = 0.4
2022 4th round pick (EDM - #118) = 0.3
2022 5th round pick (CBJ - #140) = 0.2
2022 6th round pick (NJD - #165) = 0.2
2022 7th round pick (NJD - #197) = 0.2

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Moving up scenarios:
#1 (17.2) = Entire draft board (13.2) plus some of mid-1st value (4.5)
#2 (12.3) = 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th
#3 (10.2) = 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 6th
#4 (9.0) = 1st, 3rd

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I only did scenarios with non-playoff teams.
Don't read much into the lines.

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EDIT: Trade #8 should be with NYI, not CBJ (all the details are the same)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,500,000
1$3,000,000
3$3,000,000
2$900,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
Trades
1.
NJD
    2022 1st round pick (CHI - #6)
    2022 3rd round pick (TBL - #88)

    #6 = 7.6
    #88 = 0.6
    CBJ
      2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

      #5 = 8.2
      2.
      NJD
        2022 1st round pick (OTT - #7)
        2022 2nd round pick (TBL - #56)

        #7 = 7.1
        #56 = 1.3
        OTT
          2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

          #5 = 8.2
          3.
          NJD
            2022 1st round pick (DET - #8)
            2022 2nd round pick (WAS - #52)

            #8 = 6.7
            #52 = 1.5
            DET
              2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

              #5 = 8.2
              4.
              NJD
                2022 1st round pick (BUF - #9)
                2022 2nd round pick (BUF - #41)

                #9 = 6.3
                #41 = 2.0
                BUF
                  2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                  #5 = 8.2
                  5.
                  NJD
                    2022 1st round pick (ANA - #10)
                    2022 2nd round pick (ANA - #42)
                    2022 5th round pick (ANA - #138)

                    #10 = 6.0
                    #42 = 2.0
                    #138 = 0.3
                    ANA
                      2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                      #5 = 8.2
                      6.
                      NJD
                        2022 1st round pick (SJS - #11)
                        2022 3rd round pick (SJS - #75)
                        2022 4th round pick (SJS - #107)
                        2022 5th round pick (BUF - #137)
                        2022 5th round pick (SJS - #139)
                        2022 6th round pick (SJS - #171)
                        2022 7th round pick (ARI - #194)
                        2022 7th round pick (SJS - #203)
                        2022 7th round pick (MIN - #219)

                        #11 = 5.7
                        #75 = 0.8
                        #107 = 0.4
                        #137 = 0.3
                        #139 = 0.3
                        #171 = 0.2
                        #194 = 0.2
                        #203 = 0.2
                        #219 = 0.1

                        (that is their entire draft board)
                        SJS
                          2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                          #5 = 8.2
                          7.
                          NJD
                            2022 1st round pick (CBJ - #12)
                            2022 2nd round pick (CBJ - #44)
                            2022 3rd round pick (TBL - #88)
                            2022 7th round pick (TOR - #202)

                            #12 = 5.5
                            #44 = 1.9
                            #88 = 0.6
                            #202 = 0.2
                            CBJ
                              2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                              #5 = 8.2
                              8.
                              NJD
                                2022 1st round pick (NYI - #13)
                                2022 2nd round pick (COL - #63)
                                2022 3rd round pick (NYI - #77)
                                2022 5th round pick (NYI - #141)
                                2022 6th round pick (NYI - #173)

                                #13 = 5.3
                                #63 = 1.1
                                #77 = 0.8
                                #141 = 0.2
                                #173 = 0.2

                                Something else = ~0.6 (about 3rd round pick value)
                                CBJ
                                  2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                  #5 = 8.2
                                  9.
                                  NJD
                                    2022 1st round pick (WPG - #14)
                                    2022 2nd round pick (NYR - #57)
                                    2022 2nd round pick (STL - #58)
                                    2022 3rd round pick (CBJ - #76)

                                    #6 = 5.1
                                    #57 = 1.3
                                    #58 = 1.2
                                    #76 = 0.8
                                    WPG
                                      2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                      #5 = 8.2
                                      10.
                                      NJD
                                        2022 1st round pick (VAN - #15)
                                        2022 3rd round pick (VAN - #79)
                                        2022 4th round pick (VAN - #111)
                                        2022 5th round pick (VAN - #143)
                                        2022 6th round pick (VAN - #175)
                                        2022 7th round pick (VAN - #207)

                                        #15 = 4.9
                                        #79 = 0.7
                                        #111 = 0.4
                                        #143 = 0.2
                                        #175 = 0.2
                                        #207 = 0.1

                                        Something else = ~1.7 (about 2nd round pick value)
                                        VAN
                                          2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                          #5 = 8.2
                                          11.
                                          NJD
                                            2022 1st round pick (VGK - #16)
                                            2022 1st round pick (FLA - #32)
                                            2022 3rd round pick (BUF - #73)

                                            #16 = 4.7
                                            #32 = 2.7
                                            #73 = 0.8
                                            BUF
                                              2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                              #5 = 8.2
                                              12.
                                              NJD
                                                2022 1st round pick (BOS - #23)
                                                2022 2nd round pick (ANA - #42)
                                                2022 3rd round pick (PIT - #53)
                                                2022 4th round pick (ANA - #106)
                                                2022 5th round pick (ANA - #138)
                                                2022 5th round pick (TOR - #157)
                                                2022 6th round pick (ANA - #178)

                                                #23 = 3.6
                                                #42 = 2.0
                                                #53 = 1.4
                                                #106 = 0.4
                                                #138 = 0.3
                                                #157 = 0.2
                                                #178 = 0.2
                                                ANA
                                                  2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                                  #5 = 8.2
                                                  13.
                                                  NJD
                                                    2022 1st round pick (CGY - #28)
                                                    2022 2nd round pick (MTL - #33)
                                                    2022 2nd round pick (EDM - #54)
                                                    2022 3rd round pick (MTL - #65)
                                                    2022 7th round pick (STL - #218)

                                                    #28 = 3.1
                                                    #33 = 2.6
                                                    #54 = 1.4
                                                    #65 = 1.0
                                                    #218 = 0.1
                                                    MTL
                                                      2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                                      #5 = 8.2
                                                      14.
                                                      NJD
                                                        2022 1st round pick (CAR - #30)
                                                        2022 1st round pick (COL - #31)
                                                        2022 2nd round pick (ARI - #34)

                                                        #30 = 2.9
                                                        #31 = 2.8
                                                        #34 = 2.5
                                                        ARI
                                                          2022 1st round pick (NJD - #5)

                                                          #5 = 8.2
                                                          Buyouts
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                                                          24$82,500,000$74,035,833$0$1,732,500$8,464,167
                                                          Left WingCentreRight Wing
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $2,000,000$2,000,000
                                                          C, LW, RW
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $8,000,000$8,000,000
                                                          C
                                                          UFA - 8
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                          RW, C
                                                          RFA - 2
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
                                                          RW, LW
                                                          RFA - 3
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $7,250,000$7,250,000
                                                          C
                                                          UFA - 5
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $6,500,000$6,500,000
                                                          RW, LW
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $3,400,000$3,400,000
                                                          LW, RW
                                                          M-NTC
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $900,000$900,000
                                                          C, LW
                                                          RFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $800,000$800,000
                                                          RW
                                                          RFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $975,000$975,000
                                                          C
                                                          RFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $825,000$825,000
                                                          RW
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $3,000,000$3,000,000
                                                          LW
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $1,125,000$1,125,000
                                                          LD
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $4,166,666$4,166,666
                                                          RD
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $2,800,000$2,800,000
                                                          G
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $3,166,667$3,166,667
                                                          LD
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $9,000,000$9,000,000
                                                          RD
                                                          NMC
                                                          UFA - 6
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
                                                          G
                                                          RFA - 2
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                          LD/RD
                                                          RFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $925,000$925,000
                                                          RD
                                                          RFA - 1
                                                          ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $1,825,000$1,825,000
                                                          LW, C
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $4,500,000$4,500,000
                                                          LW, RW
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $3,000,000$3,000,000
                                                          C, LW
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $4,125,000$4,125,000
                                                          G
                                                          UFA - 1
                                                          Taxi Squad
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $789,167$789,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                                                          LD
                                                          RFA - 2
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
                                                          LW
                                                          RFA - 2
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $795,000$795,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
                                                          LD
                                                          RFA - 1
                                                          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
                                                          $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
                                                          RW
                                                          RFA - 2

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                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 9:36 a.m.
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                                                          Here is the draft pick value chart

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                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 9:52 a.m.
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                                                          If by chance cooley or savoie was still available when pick 5 came up I'd hope Detroit would make that deal.
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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                                                          Quoting: Jfstompers
                                                          If by chance cooley or savoie was still available when pick 5 came up I'd hope Detroit would make that deal.

                                                          I’d make that deal right now just knowing the top 5 prospects I’d want. I think there’s a pretty solid top 6 before a drop off.
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 10:41 a.m.
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                                                          Quoting: Jfstompers
                                                          If by chance cooley or savoie was still available when pick 5 came up I'd hope Detroit would make that deal.


                                                          Quoting: Stevierebz
                                                          I’d make that deal right now just knowing the top 5 prospects I’d want. I think there’s a pretty solid top 6 before a drop off.


                                                          I'm not opposed to that deal either. I would rather get one elite player over 1 really good and 1 good player personally. We need more elite talent.
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 10:45 a.m.
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                                                          Was just about to post something in regards to trading down. I potentially like the idea of trading down with Buffalo for their #16 and #30 and maybe one of their G prospects. But not sure if that's asking for a lot
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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                                                          This was really cool, thanks for sharing!
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 11:07 a.m.
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                                                          Quoting: iforgotmyname
                                                          Was just about to post something in regards to trading down. I potentially like the idea of trading down with Buffalo for their #16 and #30 and maybe one of their G prospects. But not sure if that's asking for a lot


                                                          With the uncertainty in Buffalo's crease, I'd say the goalie prospects are off limits for now unless Adams' socks get blown off. If someone Buffalo really likes is there at 5 though, who knows?
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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                                                          Quoting: Stevierebz
                                                          I’d make that deal right now just knowing the top 5 prospects I’d want. I think there’s a pretty solid top 6 before a drop off.


                                                          Wright
                                                          Cooley
                                                          Nemec
                                                          Slafkovsky
                                                          Savoie
                                                          Jiricek
                                                          Kemell
                                                          Maybe Nazar
                                                          Lekkerimaki

                                                          I think the drop off is after
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 11:14 a.m.
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                                                          The top 8 of this draft is the only place I would want to be. If the pick is traded, it should be for an established player, and not to move back in the draft.
                                                          Apr. 30, 2022 at 11:16 a.m.
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                                                          As Devils fans who do we want to get if we stay at 5 though? If we stay at 5 and he's available I want Slafkovsky. If not him then Nemec. If both of those guys are gone, I'd be ok with trading back.
                                                           
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