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My thoughts on the Jets Offseason

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Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 26, 2022
Published: May 2, 2022
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Note: this was written before Chevy was extended and the coaching staff fired yesterday/today. That makes it less likely than it already was that any of this stuff will actually happen, but thought I'd still put out my thoughts on the offseason anyways.

Warning: I wrote full paragraphs for each trade so this post is very word heavy.
Free Agent Signings
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1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
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  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Holloway, Dylan
  3. Kassian, Zack
  4. Skinner, Stuart
  5. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
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This wouldn't need to be the exact package, but the idea would be they'd give up one of Broberg/Bouchard, one of Holloway/Bourgault, Kassian, Skinner, and the 1st. This is based off a couple acgms I've seen recently with the same package but Konovalov instead of Skinner. Swapping in the guy who's played in NHL games (and been solid) may be pushing it a bit, but Konovalov has little to no value to Winnipeg and ideally with Hellebuyck getting most of the starts Skinner wouldn't be needed. For Winnipeg, trading Hellebuyck would hurt, but would be huge towards really kickstarting the rebuild. He's been fantastic for us, but with his contract expiring in 2 years, we'll have to decide whether to pay him, trade him, or let him walk. The history of giving big money to goalies is not very pretty (see Ilya Bryzgalov, Carey Price), and letting him walk has us losing out on a ton of value from a potential trade. The Oilers have been in need of quality goaltending for a few years, and this should give them an elite player there, at least in the short term. In terms of the other pieces involved, Skinner and Comrie could form a quality tandem for the Jets, Broberg or Bouchard could fit nicely into our long term top 4, Holloway/Bourgault into our top 6, and the first rounder in a deep draft can add another quality piece for us. Taking on two years of Kassian is the price we have to pay to get a little extra on the return, and shouldn't hurt too much considering we'd be rebuilding. Overall, I think this is a move I think the Jets should make if it's available. Oilers fans, lmk on the value below.
2.
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  1. 2022 4th round pick (COL)
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I've seen Wings fans on this site express interest in Schmidt, and considering our defense group could get crowded with prospects and new additions, he'd be a good candidate to move on from in a rebuild. The return isn't a super big concern for us, and I've seen at least one Wings fan say they'd do it for a 4th or 5th but not a 3rd, so a 4th it is.
3.
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  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Scheifele, Mark
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For this trade to happen, the Flames would a) need to inspire enough confidence in the playoffs to convince Treliving to move another 1st+prospect and little enough for him to feel they need another guy down the middle, as well as Treliving having enough faith in Scheifele bouncing back to pull the trigger on this deal.
To be fair, if any coach could inspire Mark Scheifele's best effort on the defensive side of the puck, Daryll Sutter seems to be it, considering what he's done with the Flames this season. If Calgary feels that Sean Monahan is not good enough anymore to warrant another shot in the top 6, they might see Scheifele as a fit on the second line. Or maybe I'm just out of touch with the Flames.

From the Jets perspective, this may be seen as a poor return, but could look good for them if Monahan bounces back. Alternatively, they could take on Monahan as a cap casualty/dump and move Scheif in a separate deal, I'm just not sure what teams are interested at this point (Rangers possibly, but they do have Copp and Strome at least for now).

If Monahan plays well, he could be re-upped for the right price or flipped at the deadline. If not, we let him walk.
4.
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  1. 2023 2nd round pick (WPG)
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I've seen this trade posted around here a bit and wouldn't mind seeing it happen. Stanley is a solid prospect who we (for better or worse) seem to have prioritized developing over some of our other prospects with less intimidating physical profiles (e.g. Heinola, Sammy Niku). Stanley is a solid defenseman who put up decent results on the third pair last year and mediocre numbers this season. Realistically though, it's unlikely he'd become anything better than a number 4 defenseman, with the most likely scenario being bottom pair. To me, that's not worth the effort of developing him when we have many other players to prioritize, especially in this scenario where we add Broberg. A 2nd round pick is about the best value we could get here, and maybe even a bit optimistic. A 3rd rounder would also work here. Otherwise, I'd keep Stanley as a young 7th defenseman that could earn more playing time with a good showing.
5.
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    Some more notes:
    I'd like to move Wheeler for the right offer, but realistically he's staying until his contract runs up. Retaining salary wouldn't be a deal breaker for me but I think he'd be hesitant to move and the team would respect that. He can play on the middle six for now, being bumped to the 3rd line if/when a younger player proves to be better in the top 6.

    Adam Lowry would be another player I'd be happy to move, but will realistically stay. He's fine as a 4C and you do need some vets, although I'd like to see Gustafsson eventually replace him. Kassian is also fine on the 4th line for a year or two and can be scratched if need be to make way for a prospect.

    Brendan Dillon should be moved at the deadline for a good (a 1st would be ideal, but a 2nd would be good enough if none are offered). He can start out mentoring Broberg or another young dman on the bottom pairing and then be replaced with Heinola when traded. I'd consider moving Morrissey as well if the right offer came along (considering we're already moving half the team, what's one more, right?)
    Lines: Connor, Dubois and Ehlers are the new core of this team and based on their results this year it seems wise to keep them together. The second line is less than ideal, with Perfetti being placed with a reclamation project and a declining Blake Wheeler, but I really liked my bottom six and didn't want to mess with it, so I'd just hope they'd be able to fully utilize their offensive talents and catch fire. If Perfetti struggles, him and Svech could be swapped.
    My 3rd line of Svech-Barron-Appleton is my favourite of the 4 and besides the top line the one I could see being the most successful in their role. Barron has been solid with us so far, I've liked Svech in the games he's played and Appleton rounds out the line nicely. They're all in their early-mid 20s, which is young enough to make them potential mainstays long term. I really like this idea.
    The 4th line is just two veterans and Vesalainen. Lowry unfortunately won't be moved anytime soon, as much as I'd like to see it, and Kassian is good enough to warrant a 4th line role. This is partly to fulfill our "veteran quota" since this is a younger team than we've put out in the past few years. If Vesalainen plays well, he could be moved up into the middle six, although I'd hesitate to break up the 3rd line if they were playing as well as I hope they would. In a perfect world he impresses enough that he bumps Monahan (or Wheeler) out of the top six in the long run. If he flops, Jansen Harkins can take his spot as he's more suited for a bottom six role than Vesa anyways.

    Defensively, the top 4 stays the same and Broberg takes Schmidt's spot on the bottom pair. Dillon mentors him until he's moved at the deadline, and then ideally Heinola comes up as the replacement.
    In net, Skinner and Comrie split the starts to begin the year and our new head coach is allowed to ride the hot hand. This would likely relegate Berdin to the AHL indefinitely unless one of our goalies flop.

    Obviously, this would be a lot of major changes to undergo in a single offseason, and is probably a very extreme route to take (which makes it unlikely to happen since Chevy is our GM). However, I think this team needs some sort of major shakeup as we've been stuck in mediocrity for essentially the past 4 seasons. Becoming the new Minnesota Wild is not a success, and that's where I feel this team is currently heading. Hopefully whatever we do this offseason will at least leave a brighter outlook heading into next year.
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    May 2, 2022 at 10:07 p.m.
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    That Hellebuyck trade is Habs fan level delusional. You can't seriously think he gets anywhere near that return.
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    May 2, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.
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    Wings aren't interested in touching Schmidt's contract. They have plenty of their own young D on the way in the very near future
    May 2, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.
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    I dont want to move Pelletier but I would probably accept end of the day
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    May 2, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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    Wings aren't interested in touching Schmidt's contract. They have plenty of their own young D on the way in the very near future


    I feel like they would accept this if other better options can't be had. Not my first choice but we need left shot dmen right now.
    May 2, 2022 at 11:23 p.m.
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    Detroit accepts, but only for option D or E.
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    May 3, 2022 at 5:25 a.m.
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    Detroit accepts, player useful.

    We need one or two LD for next season and maybe longer. Schmidt is a good option for us, he can quarterback our second PP and he has an advantage over other options in that he can play both sides which may become very important in case of injury to Seider or Hronek.

    Schmidt is also good enough and young enough that he can be traded for a "profit" when he's no longer needed due to our kids taking over.
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    May 4, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ausbear17
    That Hellebuyck trade is Habs fan level delusional. You can't seriously think he gets anywhere near that return.


    I'd seen Oilers fans offer a 1st, Broberg, Holloway, Kassian and Konovolov. That's what I was basing it off of.
    And Helle would get a substantial return, even if it's not to that level. A 1st and 2 good prospects wouldn't be out of the range of possibility IMO.
    May 4, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lancebmx
    I feel like they would accept this if other better options can't be had. Not my first choice but we need left shot dmen right now.


    Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
    Detroit accepts, but only for option D or E.


    Quoting: Billy12Bob
    Detroit accepts, player useful.

    We need one or two LD for next season and maybe longer. Schmidt is a good option for us, he can quarterback our second PP and he has an advantage over other options in that he can play both sides which may become very important in case of injury to Seider or Hronek.

    Schmidt is also good enough and young enough that he can be traded for a "profit" when he's no longer needed due to our kids taking over.


    Good to know! He'd definitely work as a Nick Leddy replacement PP2 type and stopgap 2nd pair guy. The contract's a bit long but would be expiring by the time
    the Wings are really contending and needing to pay Seider, Raymond, etc. If you guys can't find someone else, could definitely be a good fit.
    May 4, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I dont want to move Pelletier but I would probably accept end of the day


    Ok good to hear! I was trying to find a good team for a Scheifele trade and thought I'd try something a bit more creative, especially since some of the potential suitors either have somewhat addressed the 2C position (NYR) or I'd seen their fans have shoot down trade proposals (Boston).
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    May 4, 2022 at 8:40 p.m.
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    Ok good to hear! I was trying to find a good team for a Scheifele trade and thought I'd try something a bit more creative, especially since some of the potential suitors either have somewhat addressed the 2C position (NYR) or I'd seen their fans have shoot down trade proposals (Boston).


    Does Zary + maybe have some interest instead of Pelletier? Zary's a natural center and has really picked up his game the laster half of the season since being promoted from the 4th line in Stockton. Also wpuld you be open to a Stanley for Valimaki swap as well?
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    May 5, 2022 at 12:28 a.m.
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    I'd seen Oilers fans offer a 1st, Broberg, Holloway, Kassian and Konovolov. That's what I was basing it off of.
    And Helle would get a substantial return, even if it's not to that level. A 1st and 2 good prospects wouldn't be out of the range of possibility IMO.


    I could see him fetching something similar to what Arizona got for Kuemper. You aren't getting a first round pick on top of our best Forward, Defense and Goalie prospects... Hellebuyck is coming off a bang-average season and only has 2 years of term left.
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    May 5, 2022 at 12:36 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Does Zary + maybe have some interest instead of Pelletier? Zary's a natural center and has really picked up his game the laster half of the season since being promoted from the 4th line in Stockton. Also wpuld you be open to a Stanley for Valimaki swap as well?


    If Zary still projects as having top 6 upside, then sure. I don't see much of a difference other than Zary looks to be a year behind Pelletier on the development curve (which makes sense since he's 6 months younger). The natural center thing is kinda here nor there: we have Perfetti who ideally would grow into our 2C anyways, or can play on the wing if needed.

    As for Stanley for Valamaki, sure I guess. As mentioned above I think he tops out as a 3rd pairing guy so flipping him for a reclamation project wouldn't be the worst idea presuming we'd have room for them. Having said that it'd be nice if he could play the right side since we already have Heinola and Samberg as young dmen on the left side.
    May 5, 2022 at 12:46 a.m.
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    If Zary still projects as having top 6 upside, then sure. I don't see much of a difference other than Zary looks to be a year behind Pelletier on the development curve (which makes sense since he's 6 months younger). The natural center thing is kinda here nor there: we have Perfetti who ideally would grow into our 2C anyways, or can play on the wing if needed.

    As for Stanley for Valamaki, sure I guess. As mentioned above I think he tops out as a 3rd pairing guy so flipping him for a reclamation project wouldn't be the worst idea presuming we'd have room for them. Having said that it'd be nice if he could play the right side since we already have Heinola and Samberg as young dmen on the left side.


    I wouldn't put Valimaki in the rec project category yet. He lost 2 years of development to injuries and last year was shortened. This year he lost his spot on the 2nd pair to a guy who went out and reinvented his game. He still has all the tools to be a top 4 guy but needs to mature a little. Only thing keeping him out is his gap control and Zadorov being 6'6
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    May 5, 2022 at 12:54 a.m.
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    I could see him fetching something similar to what Arizona got for Kuemper. You aren't getting a first round pick on top of our best Forward, Defense and Goalie prospects... Hellebuyck is coming off a bang-average season and only has 2 years of term left.


    He was 8th in GSAX this year and 1st in the 2 prior to that, including 2019-20 where he won a Vezina. Kuemper was 6th in 19-20, 33rd last year and 13th in 18-19. With his track record I'd have to imagine GM's regard him as a tier above Kuemper, and he has an extra year left compared to Kuemper when he was traded last offseason. Kuemper got a 1st and solid defensive prospect (plus a conditional 3rd), so based on that I'd expect Hellebuyck to fetch at least a couple of A level assets, and quite possibly even 3. Our front office is loyal to a fault and certainly wouldn't move him for peanuts (in fact, I'm quite sure they won't move him at all, but that's somewhat beside the point here).

    I'd seen Oilers fans offering 3 of the 4 main pieces in the deal and decided to push the envelope a bit. Obviously you don't have to agree with them, but the idea isn't baseless.
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    May 5, 2022 at 12:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I wouldn't put Valimaki in the rec project category yet. He lost 2 years of development to injuries and last year was shortened. This year he lost his spot on the 2nd pair to a guy who went out and reinvented his game. He still has all the tools to be a top 4 guy but needs to mature a little. Only thing keeping him out is his gap control and Zadorov being 6'6


    Ok good to know! I'd definitely be on board with that deal then. If we could have Heinola, Valamaki and Samberg down the left side long term that sounds like a success.
     
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