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Gibson

Created by: Duggysdanglers
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2022
Published: May 6, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
This mock has been done numerous times and fans usually berate the author but I read an article on The Athletic … well that’s how it starts. I’d try and keep Holloway and Broberg in the AHL to continue their development rather than rushing them into the NHL. Although PB should be ready.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
McLeod, Ryan2$1,000,000
Yamamoto, Kailer1$3,000,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse1$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kane, Evander5$4,000,000
Russell, Kris1$1,000,000
Chiasson, Alex1$850,000
Kulak, Brett6$2,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Kuzmenko, Andrei1$800,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Gibson, John
ANA
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Bourgault, Xavier
  3. Konovalov, Ilya
  4. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (BOS)
OTT
  1. Samorukov, Dmitri
  2. Kassian, Zack
3.
EDM
  1. Soucy, Carson
SEA
  1. Keith, Duncan
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$83,163,500$896,000$850,000-$663,500
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kane, Evander
$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Yamamoto, Kailer
$3,000,000
RW, C
RFA
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Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Kuzmenko, Andrei
$800,000
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
$3,000,000
RW
RFA
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Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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McLeod, Ryan
$1,000,000
C
RFA
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Ryan, Derek
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Chiasson, Alex
$850,000
RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Nurse, Darnell
$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
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Gibson, John
$6,400,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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Soucy, Carson
$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 1
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Niemeläinen, Markus
$762,500
LD
RFA - 2
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Kulak, Brett
$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA
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Russell, Kris
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Holloway, Dylan
$925,000 ($0)
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Skinner, Stuart
$750,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
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Broberg, Philip
$863,333 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2

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May 6 at 6:19 p.m.
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Those two players aren't worh a 3rd, together or separate.
May 6 at 6:20 p.m.
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Still not paying you for Kassian. Put the 3rd on the other side and it turns into a maybe.
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May 6 at 6:25 p.m.
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John Gibson has a 10 team no trade list, Pretty much guarantee you Edmonton is one of those 10 teams.
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May 6 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Those two players aren't worh a 3rd, together or separate.


Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
Still not paying you for Kassian. Put the 3rd on the other side and it turns into a maybe.


Samorukov is easily worth a third round pick.
That’s why I put him in the pkg. Maybe the return should be a later round pick.
May 6 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
John Gibson has a 10 team no trade list, Pretty much guarantee you Edmonton is one of those 10 teams.


That’s not guaranteed honestly. They have the best players in the world and they are turning into a legit contender so that might sway him. Everyone wants to play for a winner. But yes very easily could get vetoed.
May 6 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
Samorukov is easily worth a third round pick.
That’s why I put him in the pkg. Maybe the return should be a later round pick.


If samorukov was worth a 3rd he would have at least come close to cracking the Oilers top 6 D. He's not anything special at all. Ottawa's Left D side is way too deep for Samorukov to have a real shot.
May 6 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
That’s not guaranteed honestly. They have the best players in the world and they are turning into a legit contender so that might sway him. Everyone wants to play for a winner. But yes very easily could get vetoed.


It sounds like Pat Verbeek will probably move him this coming summer, So we shall see who's possibly on the list and where he may go.
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May 6 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
If samorukov was worth a 3rd he would have at least come close to cracking the Oilers top 6 D. He's not anything special at all. Ottawa's Left D side is way too deep for Samorukov to have a real shot.


Fair point.
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May 6 at 6:44 p.m.
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Samorukov is easily worth a third round pick.
That’s why I put him in the pkg. Maybe the return should be a later round pick.


Cant remember the last time a third round pick with one NHL game in his D+5 season yielded a 3rd....
May 6 at 6:48 p.m.
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No interest in Gibson. He's highly overrated - he simply hasn't been very good the past 4-5 years.
May 6 at 6:59 p.m.
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No interest in Gibson. He's highly overrated - he simply hasn't been very good the past 4-5 years.


I mean... I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying, but like... it's 3 season. Not 4-5.
May 6 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I mean... I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying, but like... it's 3 season. Not 4-5.

Since January 2019. 3.5 seasons.
May 6 at 9:38 p.m.
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No interest in Gibson. He's highly overrated - he simply hasn't been very good the past 4-5 years.


Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I mean... I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying, but like... it's 3 season. Not 4-5.


Quoting: CD282
Since January 2019. 3.5 seasons.


Ducks have been bad as a whole haven’t they?? We’d have to dig into deeper stats like odd man rushes, PP against, SA and quality shots against etc.
May 9 at 7:20 a.m.
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Ducks have been bad as a whole haven’t they?? We’d have to dig into deeper stats like odd man rushes, PP against, SA and quality shots against etc.

It's funny, people are so quick to defend Gibson by blaming his team. Elite goalies play well even behind poor teams. Is it just possible that the team is bad because Gibson is bad?

Stolarz and Dostal both posted better GAA and SV% numbers than Gibson this season. Kinda hard to blame the team for his poor numbers when his backup and an AHL rookie did better behind the same team.
May 9 at 9:45 a.m.
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Quoting: CD282
No interest in Gibson. He's highly overrated - he simply hasn't been very good the past 4-5 years.


Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I mean... I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying, but like... it's 3 season. Not 4-5.


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Since January 2019. 3.5 seasons.

Here's a look at the past 4 years for Gibson. There's an interesting pattern here where he comes out of the gate on fire, then drops off to average or below for the remainder of the season. It's disconcerting, to say the least, for any playoff team looking for goaltending as a playoff team wants a goalie who is strong down the stretch and into the playoffs. Here are the numbers:

2018-19
First 12 games: .935
Remaining 46: .911

2019-20
First 12 games: .926
Remaining 39: .897

2020-21
First 12 games: .923
Remaining 23: .894

2021-22
First 12 games: .924
Remaining 44: .898

The last time he was among the top goalies in the league was 2017-18, when he posted a .926 over 60 games. The trouble with giving him full credit for that is the fact that Anaheim's other 2 goalies posted better results: Ryan Miller posted .928 in 28 games and Reto Berra (who?) posted .926 in 5 games - and both goalies had a lower GAA than Gibson.

I honestly don't think you can blame the team for Gibson's dismal play over a significant period of time. Stolarz and Dostal both posted better GAA and SV% numbers than Gibson this season, FWIW.

Based on reputation, Gibson has a lot of value. But based on actual results, he's a cap dump. I'm not in favor of spending multiple high-end assets and dedicating $6.4M in cap space for 5 more years to finding out which is right, reputation or math. There's simply too much risk and too little upside.
 
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