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Only way to move the 7th OA

Created by: clapperzzz11
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 12, 2022
Published: May 12, 2022
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,500,000
3$3,500,000
1$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
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3$4,100,000
1$750,000
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1.
ARI
  1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. White, Colin
  4. 2022 1st round pick (OTT)
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Az' add cap to reach the floor.

7th OA + good D prospect in Brannstrom. Maybe a fresh start could be benefit.
2.
SJS
    7th OA pick
    3rd pick in 2022
    Brannstom
    White
    Boucher or Jarventie or Tychonick
    3.
    TOR
      7th OA pick
      3rd rd pick in 2022
      Gustavsson

      Toronto clear 10.7 millions in cap space
      4.
      OTT
      1. Weissbach, Linus
      2. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
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      Sens clear 6.25 millions in cap space
      BUF
        7th OA
        Matt Murray
        5.
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        1. Laine, Patrik [RFA Rights]
        CBJ
          7th OA pick
          Zaitsev or White
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          May 12, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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          Nowhere near enough for Keller, but I think he is by far and away by favourite trade target
          May 12, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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          I think Buffalo ought to accept that.
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          May 12, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
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          No chance San Jose moves Meier for that. Add a top prospect and they may consider
          May 12, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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          A crazy price to pay to move up two spots in the draft for Buffalo. Unless you’re retaining half of Murray‘s ridiculous contract I don’t see why Buffalo should think about it.
          May 12, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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          Quoting: glarson17
          No chance San Jose moves Meier for that. Add a top prospect and they may consider


          Boucher and Jarventie are top prospect. Boucher 10th OA in 2021.
          Jarventie need at least another year in AHL. Then he would be a really good middle 6 player.
          May 12, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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          For Laine, the package would start with 7OA and Brannstrom.

          Considering Laine would come with an extension (why wouldn’t he), the price may very well go up. Possibly Pinto thrown in.

          CBJ could add, probably Bemstrom, Nyquist (retained). There would likely be a lot of moving parts. Maybe a swap for 12OA.
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          May 12, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.
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          Quoting: Tjm220
          A crazy price to pay to move up two spots in the draft for Buffalo. Unless you’re retaining half of Murray‘s ridiculous contract I don’t see why Buffalo should think about it.


          I don't know if it was amended, but now it says vegas pick 16. So all it costs us is taking a bad contract to move up 9 very meaningful spots. I saw 5 mock drafts this morning that each had the Sabres taking a different left shot d at number 16. Obviously that's ridiculous if you take half a second to look at our roster, but maybe this draft is just loaded with mid first rank lefty d. I want no part of this, so moving up to grab a center or right d sounds beautiful. I would grab another vet goalie that can be trusted more than Murray, then figure out whether Murray is a backup, or if we have to bury him.
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          May 12, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: clapperzzz11
          Boucher and Jarventie are top prospect. Boucher 10th OA in 2021.
          Jarventie need at least another year in AHL. Then he would be a really good middle 6 player.


          Lol did you really say Boucher is a top prospect? If you truly believe that then there’s much more wrong than this trade proposal. Literally 0 other teams take him in the top 20-25 at least. 14 points in 24 OHL games and only 3 points in 17 NCAA games is not a top 10 pick. Just because Ottawa massively screwed up that pick that early doesn’t mean he’s a top prospect. Jarventie is okay, maybe a 2nd liner if he fully develops. I don’t see it, probably is more of a 3rd liner. Still, that’s not close to Timo.
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          May 12, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.
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          Quoting: clapperzzz11
          Boucher and Jarventie are top prospect. Boucher 10th OA in 2021.
          Jarventie need at least another year in AHL. Then he would be a really good middle 6 player.


          Boucher is a 2nd round talent that Ottawa decided to pick 25 spots early instead of Sillinger or Coronato lmao. That doesn’t make him a fantastic prospect.
          May 13, 2022 at 8:56 a.m.
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          Quoting: glarson17
          Lol did you really say Boucher is a top prospect? If you truly believe that then there’s much more wrong than this trade proposal. Literally 0 other teams take him in the top 20-25 at least. 14 points in 24 OHL games and only 3 points in 17 NCAA games is not a top 10 pick. Just because Ottawa massively screwed up that pick that early doesn’t mean he’s a top prospect. Jarventie is okay, maybe a 2nd liner if he fully develops. I don’t see it, probably is more of a 3rd liner. Still, that’s not close to Timo.


          Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
          Boucher is a 2nd round talent that Ottawa decided to pick 25 spots early instead of Sillinger or Coronato lmao. That doesn’t make him a fantastic prospect.


          I totally agree with you, but in the sens prospect pool he is a top prospect. I'm still wondering why they take him at 10th OA.
          Give me other prospect you could look at ? Sokolov? Crookshank?
          Sanderson is untouchable. Maybe JBD or Thompson ?
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          May 13, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.
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          Quoting: Diaspora
          I think Buffalo ought to accept that.
          Quoting: Tjm220
          A crazy price to pay to move up two spots in the draft for Buffalo...
          Quoting: sabres89
          ... So all it costs us is taking a bad contract to move up 9 very meaningful spots...
          This is a close call IMO.
          To begin I am not sure if I want to give up on Weissbach, but considering how many possible 2nd line NHL forwards the Sabres have in the pipeline, he is most likely a casualty.
          Depending on which draft value chart one uses the difference between 9th and 16th could be as much as a late first round pick or as little as a late second.
          I tend to trust the draft value chart that indicates the difference is a late first.
          Regardless, considering how well Jeramiah Crowe has drafted the past two years, having two picks among the top 9 (instead of the top 16) even in what is considered a soft draft gets me excited.

          Finally, this could be a HUGE win if Mike Bales can recover Murray's career and Matt returned to his glory years when he helped the Penguins win back to back cups.
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          May 13, 2022 at 12:50 p.m.
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          Quoting: clapperzzz11
          I totally agree with you, but in the sens prospect pool he is a top prospect. I'm still wondering why they take him at 10th OA.
          Give me other prospect you could look at ? Sokolov? Crookshank?
          Sanderson is untouchable. Maybe JBD or Thompson ?


          JBD would be interesting, sharks need more young RD
          May 13, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.
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          Edited May 13, 2022 at 3:43 p.m.
          Quoting: PLDGEY
          Nowhere near enough for Keller, but I think he is by far and away by favourite trade target


          Yeah but 7th OA pick + Brannstrom + White has to be CLOSE no? And if Murray can stay healthy, gives them a capable goalie. Not likely to happen though as he has been injury prone for years.

          Quoting: dopplsan
          For Laine, the package would start with 7OA and Brannstrom.

          Considering Laine would come with an extension (why wouldn’t he), the price may very well go up. Possibly Pinto thrown in..


          Pinto would not be "thrown in" in any trade lol

          He would be the centerpiece and since there's already a 7th overall pick here, then forget it.
          May 13, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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          Quoting: glarson17
          No chance San Jose moves Meier for that. Add a top prospect and they may consider


          7th OA pick
          Erik Brannstrom (was still a top prospect last year, now he is a developing 22 y/o D-man who has quietly produced 27 points in 83 games the last 2 seasons)
          Roby Jarventie (early 2nd round pick in 2020, has done nothing to lower his stock, maybe even rose it a bit)
          Colin White (overpaid but solid 3rd line forward)
          3rd round pick

          What kind of top prospect are you talking about because that's already a lot of value

          Wild fans have been asking for that 7th OA pick and Jarventie for Kevin Fiala

          Quoting: Diaspora
          I think Buffalo ought to accept that.


          Sens would be stupid to do that... A 7th OA pick to "clear 6.25 millions in cap space" when they don't even need space?
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          May 13, 2022 at 4:02 p.m.
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          Quoting: Xspyrit
          7th OA pick
          Erik Brannstrom (was still a top prospect last year, now he is a developing 22 y/o D-man who has quietly produced 27 points in 83 games the last 2 seasons)
          Roby Jarventie (early 2nd round pick in 2020, has done nothing to lower his stock, maybe even rose it a bit)
          Colin White (overpaid but solid 3rd line forward)
          3rd round pick

          What kind of top prospect are you talking about because that's already a lot of value

          Wild fans have been asking for that 7th OA pick and Jarventie for Kevin Fiala



          Sens would be stupid to do that... A 7th OA pick to "clear 6.25 millions in cap space" when they don't even need space?


          Kevin Fiala also doesn’t have a contract and the sharks don’t need either of those players. Small LD who was a top prospect 3 years ago isn’t interesting and Jarventie isn’t really needed. Sharks need RD and C prospects.
          May 15, 2022 at 12:22 p.m.
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          Quoting: glarson17
          Kevin Fiala also doesn’t have a contract and the sharks don’t need either of those players. Small LD who was a top prospect 3 years ago isn’t interesting and Jarventie isn’t really needed. Sharks need RD and C prospects.


          I see. But Meier will also become expensive in the near future...

          Brannstrom is 22 y/o, he was not a "top prospect 3 years ago". For example, Button ranked him 19th best prospect in the league last year :

          https://www.tsn.ca/kc-test-2-1.1616982

          But ok if you don't need him. He can play RD though, and even prefers that side but Ottawa don't want him to play that side for technical reasons.

          We could change him to Lassi Thomson or JBD as we probably won't be able to fit them both in the future

          For Centers, Sens just finished restocking their Center line. Stutzle (20), Norris (22), Pinto (21) and Kastelic (23) are expected to be the Centers going forward. Colin White (25) who is a pretty decent 3rd line forward (overpaid though) might be out of a C job as a result. There's Ridly Greig who might be LW or C (still unclear, he's 19) but there's very FEW players the Sens would give both Greig and a 7th OA pick for, most are just not available.

          Replace Jarventie by ostapchuk who is a Center and in the middle of a huge breakout. Still 18 years old, 23 pts in 11 playoffs games.

          That gives you a lottery pick, a 3rd line center, a top RD prospect, a (possible?) top C prospect and a 3rd round pick. That is quite the package, not sure all Sens fans would like it.

          7th OA pick
          Lassi Thomson
          Zack Ostapchuk
          Colin White
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