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If a trade for Kevin Fiala turns out like the trade for Sam Reinhart

Created by: sensonfire
Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2022
Published: May 16, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fiala, Kevin8$7,750,000
Norris, Joshua7$7,250,000
Joseph, Mathieu4$2,500,000
Formenton, Alex4$2,500,000
Brännström, Erik2$1,550,000
Gambrell, Dylan1$1,100,000
Gaudette, Adam1$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Kemell, Joakim3$925,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
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I know what you're thinking.


You're probably thinking that Ottawa owes Minnesota the 7th overall pick and a blue-chip prospect.


The problem is that when Fiala's new team signs him, he'll take up a massive chunk of their cap space.


That will be taken into account.


And also, nobody's trading away Top 10 picks on a silver platter.


For anything, really.
MIN
  1. Meriläinen, Leevi
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
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It's why I think we might see a trade for Fiala like the one for Sam Reinhart.


https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/sam-reinhart


For those of you who think that Reinhart is not a good comparable for Fiala ...

I recommend using the NHL player compare on Sportsnet to get a snapshot on the comparison between Reinhart and Fiala.


https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/player-compare/


Cheers.
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
  • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
  • Colin White: $875,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,830,714$0$4,025,000$2,669,286

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Tkachuk, Brady
$8,205,714
LW, C
UFA - 6
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Norris, Joshua
$7,250,000
C
RFA
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Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW
UFA - 5
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Joseph, Mathieu
$2,500,000
C, LW, RW
RFA
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Stützle, Tim
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Fiala, Kevin
$7,750,000
RW, LW
RFA
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Formenton, Alex
$2,500,000
LW
RFA
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Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Watson, Austin
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Gambrell, Dylan
$1,100,000
C
RFA - 1
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Gaudette, Adam
$1,000,000
C, RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Forsberg, Anton
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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Sanderson, Jake
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Brännström, Erik
$1,550,000
LD/RD
RFA
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Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Holden, Nick
$1,300,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Del Zotto, Michael
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Kelly, Parker
$762,500
C, LW
RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Batherson, D.
Tkachuk, B.
Norris, J.
Chabot, T.
Fiala, K.
Power Play 2
Joseph, M.
Stützle, T.
Gaudette, A.
Brännström, E.
Brown, C.
Penalty Kill 1
Formenton, A.
Brown, C.
Sanderson, J.
Zub, A.
Penalty Kill 2
Watson, A.
Gambrell, D.
Holden, N.
Hamonic, T.

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May 16 at 11:51 a.m.
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Fiala for the 7th overall pick makes sense to me
May 16 at 11:55 a.m.
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I see your point here, but move the 1st to 2023 because the round *does* matter (neither team should have a problem with that) and a skater is involved not a goalie. Merilainen is not the same caliber prospect as Levi.
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May 16 at 11:59 a.m.
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Minnesota isn't trading fiala for a 2nd round pick and 3rd round G prospect who will just end up stuck in AHL. There's a difference between devon lee, something Buffalo needed. Minnesota doesn't with jasper wallstedt
May 16 at 12:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Wildnochance
Minnesota isn't trading fiala for a 2nd round pick and 3rd round G prospect who will just end up stuck in AHL. There's a difference between devon lee, something Buffalo needed. Minnesota doesn't with jasper wallstedt


Let’s settle down champ. I know it’s been a while.
May 16 at 12:01 p.m.
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Respectfully Sensonfire,

how do you go from offering 7OA + Greig + Sanderson for 2OA
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3243308

to offering THIS for Fiala
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May 16 at 12:06 p.m.
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Leevi Meriläinen is not Devon Levi
May 16 at 12:10 p.m.
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the prospect in this case would need to be better imo but i agree that i think the fiala trade will end up being for less than wild fans would probably want because of their cap squeeze
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May 16 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
the prospect in this case would need to be better imo but i agree that i think the fiala trade will end up being for less than wild fans would probably want because of their cap squeeze


The cap squeeze is what makes him available, but the going rate will be determined by how many teams are serious about bidding on him. I know OTT wants him and I’m pretty sure NJD does as well, that kind of makes the cap constraint a moot point because OTT is now bidding against NJD and not the MIN situation.
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May 16 at 12:28 p.m.
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Respectfully Sensonfire,

how do you go from offering 7OA + Greig + Sanderson for 2OA
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3243308

to offering THIS for Fiala


The cap space needed to sign Fiala vs the cap space needed for whoever is picked at 2nd overall.

It's a big difference.
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May 16 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
The cap space needed to sign Fiala vs the cap space needed for whoever is picked at 2nd overall.

It's a big difference.


This is a big reason I think the 1st round pick will be a 2023. Pick 7 is more reasonable to give up than pick 2 but they are both stretches and it’ll come down to the prospect rather than the pick IMO.
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May 16 at 1:10 p.m.
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I think the Sabres if interested in Fiala could make a good offer...the Fla 1st and the signing rights to Minnesota Golden Gopher LD Ryan Johnson. If the Wild feel they are set at LD, maybe one of the Russian prospects the Sabres have drafted in the last couple of years (one that wasn't a first round pick)
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May 16 at 4:09 p.m.
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You have to compare Fiala’s 21-22 season to Reinharts 20-21 season. Fiala’s season this year was far better than Reinharts season last year.
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May 16 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: SimonSelaars3
You have to compare Fiala’s 21-22 season to Reinharts 20-21 season. Fiala’s season this year was far better than Reinharts season last year.


Last year, Reinhart was playing for Buffalo though.
May 16 at 4:29 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Last year, Reinhart was playing for Buffalo though.


That’s not my problem😂😂 GMs trade for players based on what they’ve most recently done. If someone were to trade for Reinhart this off season, he would be worth a whole lot more than last off season.
May 16 at 11:44 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Last year, Reinhart was playing for Buffalo though.


If Reinhart would have put up the numbers he did this year, last year with Buffalo, he would’ve gotten much more then he got dealt for, exactly what minny is going to get.
 
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