Cap hell year one the run it back version

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Created by: Easportzz

Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2022

Published: May 16, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Took a crack at a “run it back one more time” approach.
Bunch of reasons I don’t see it:

Relies on Fiala staying and I think there are parts of that relationship with Coach Evason that have him looking forward to a new team.

Relies on Middleton taking a short cheap deal - of all the guys to take less to stay he seems like a possibility. He was so obviously over the moon coming to play on this team that he might take less.

Requires MAF earning less than 50% of last year salary. I think he sees writing on the wall of difficulties with cap and there is no real reason for him to take substantially less to play in a team with an uphill road due to the salary challenges.

Would this version of 1st, top prospect and nhl player get the job done for a Chychrun deal?
Finally even this masterpiece of trying to keep it together leaves the 2023 team in rough shape when Boldy will need a new contract.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Fiala, Kevin	7	$7,500,000
Dewar, Connor	2	$900,000
Middleton, Jake	3	$1,750,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Fleury, Marc-André		1	$3,000,000
McIntyre, Zane		1	$750,000

Trades

MIN

2023 4th round pick (CGY)

CGY

Kulikov, Dmitry

MIN

2022 3rd round pick (BUF)

BUF

Talbot, Cam

MIN

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Addison, Calen
Jost, Tyson
2022 1st round pick (MIN)

MIN

2022 1st round pick (VAN)

VAN

Dumba, Matt
2022 3rd round pick (MIN)

Buyouts

Zach Parise: $6,371,794
Ryan Suter: $6,371,794

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$82,367,754	$0	$1,615,000	$132,246

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kaprizov, Kirill $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW UFA - 4	Hartman, Ryan $1,700,000$1,700,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Boldy, Matthew $880,833$880,833 ($600,000$600K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Rossi, Marco $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) C RFA - 3	Fiala, Kevin $7,500,000$7,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 7
Foligno, Marcus $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel $5,250,000$5,250,000 C UFA - 7	Greenway, Jordan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Dewar, Connor $900,000$900,000 LW, C RFA - 2	Gaudreau, Frédérick $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Duhaime, Brandon $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Middleton, Jake $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD UFA - 3	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 5
Brodin, Jonas $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
	Goligoski, Alex $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 2	Fleury, Marc-André $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 2
Merrill, Jon $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 3	Johansson, Simon $855,000$855,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 2	McIntyre, Zane $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
O'Rourke, Ryan $855,833$855,833 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Beckman, Adam $894,167$894,167 LW RFA - 2

May 16, 2022 at 8:36 p.m.

McSchleep

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yotes would ask for one of rossi or boldy

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May 16, 2022 at 8:39 p.m.

palhal

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Certainly a team with cap....a non playoff team isn't trading a first rounder for one year of 6m Dumba.

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May 16, 2022 at 8:41 p.m.

Tjm220

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I would think you would have to add more to the Arizona deal.

May 16, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.

Easportzz

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Quoting: palhal

Certainly a team with cap....a non playoff team isn't trading a first rounder for one year of 6m Dumba.

I think that an extension would have to be part of that - agreed if he wasn’t going to extend with them they’d never do it

May 16, 2022 at 8:51 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: Easportzz

I think that an extension would have to be part of that - agreed if he wasn’t going to extend with them they’d never do it

So now you ask your assistant captain who has a M NTC to" Hurry up and sign an extension with Vancouver because we don't want you on our team. But hey if you don't sign with Canucks you are welcome back with the Wild next season. I want to be in on that conversation. Even at that I don't how Dumba really fits into Canucks cap.

May 16, 2022 at 8:51 p.m.

wabit

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Addison + MN's 1st isn't enough for Chychrun. Jost doesn't really add much for value (3rd/4th round pick). Add in a pickem of Beckman, Marat K, Hunt, ROR, or Peart and it's closer.

Dumba for a pair of 2nds is more likely. If it's a 1st cap will have to come back to MN.

May 16, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.

Easportzz

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Quoting: palhal

You have the sequence of events a bit wrong but I was agreeing with your point that the deal for a one year player wouldn’t work. I don’t follow the canucks, not sure how well Dumba fits. That is part of fun of these things is fans from other teams give feedback - and they have been other Vancouver fans who thought a 2nd round value for Dumba would work. The Wild can’t keep his salary. And if you read up top there are a bunch of things that have to happen for this - of any one of them don’t work then it all falls apart. The point of this scenario is sort of to illustrate how difficult staying competitive at least with this core will be over these three years of cap hell Suter/Parise buyouts.

May 16, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: Easportzz

The real only logical trade the the Wild have is to trade Fiala. He has no trade restrictions, his contract is coming up, and he still is a RFA Now he is one player who can be traded with a type of sign and trade. There are four teams who might be very interested, Sens, Devils, Sabres and Wings. All have cap and a high pick in this years draft.
I really don't see where there is market for Dumba as his cap this season, and his pending UFA really decrease his trade value. I know Wild fans don't want to trade the "controllable: Fiala, but really the cap and trade value makes him the logical candidate to go.

May 16, 2022 at 9:33 p.m.

audiodave

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I can't see the Canucks trading a 1st for Dumba.

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May 16, 2022 at 9:37 p.m.

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Dumba isn't worth a lottery pick especially with one year left

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May 16, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Fiala was about as good as gone as soon as he refused to sign a long-term (underpaid) team friendly deal last offseason. Him going a ppg for the season is the exact opposite of what needed to happen if there was any chance of MN keeping him.

If Dumba doesn't agree to a team friendly (big paycut) long-term extension before the draft I see him being shipped out too.

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May 16, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.

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Quoting: audiodave

I can't see the Canucks trading a 1st for Dumba.

Quoting: theleano1

Dumba isn't worth a lottery pick especially with one year left

It's just wishful thinking by Wild fans, to me that's clear as day

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May 16, 2022 at 10:24 p.m.

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

It's just wishful thinking by Wild fans, to me that's clear as day

100% when a team is as cap strapped as the wild no one is going to give you a freebie to help you out

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May 16, 2022 at 10:30 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: wabit

Agree with you. If Wild are happy with their Dmen, especially the young ones on the horizon, don't resign Dumba and spend that cap elsewhere.

May 16, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Agree with you. If Wild are happy with their Dmen, especially the young ones on the horizon, don't resign Dumba and spend that cap elsewhere.

I don't think the young one on the horizon matter one bit. I think it's a re-sign soon or lose him for nothing in a year type of situation for GMBG. MN should be in the Playoff picture next year at the TDL, so it's really hard to trade away your 1RD in that spot. Chances are if you couldn't re-sign Dumba for cheap after this season it won't be possible after next season either.

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