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Devils havent taken a cap dump in six years

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: May 17, 2022
Published: May 17, 2022
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Maybe call it “Capstipation“?

But the Devils haven’t taken a straight cap dump in six years, since the Savard trade with Florida. They have taken a couple higher salaried veterans to fill needs, but have not intently taken on dead weight.

Where we have weaponized our cap space is with salary retention: Hall, Vatanen, Palmieri, Zajac, Johansson, etc.

A few examples below of types of trades NJD would do and not do (don’t think too much about which teams/pieces as they are just being used as examples here)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,500,000
3$3,000,000
2$900,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Roy, Nicolas [RFA Rights]
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Roy due for a raise
VGK
  1. Kuokkanen, Janne ($912,500 retained)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NJD)
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These are just examples
2.
NJD
  1. Behrens, Sean [Reserve List]
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Behrens is great, but just a placeholder here for pick/prospect package
COL
  1. Tatar, Tomas ($2,250,000 retained)
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Just another example of type of move NJD would do
3.
NJD
  1. 2022 1st round pick (STL)
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Pick and or prospect
STL
  1. Graves, Ryan ($1,583,333 retained)
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Just another example
4.
NJD
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (VGK)
VGK
    This is an example of the type of trade Devils would be highly unlikely to do
    5.
    NJD
    1. Monahan, Sean
    2. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
    CGY
      Another example of a trade that would be highly unlikely from NJD
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      Recapture Fees
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2022
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      2023
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      2024
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$82,500,000$68,655,833$0$2,265,000$13,844,167
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
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      $8,000,000$8,000,000
      C
      UFA - 8
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      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
      RW, C
      RFA - 2
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      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RW, LW
      RFA - 3
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      $7,250,000$7,250,000
      C
      UFA - 5
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $6,500,000$6,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $863,333$863,333
      LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $900,000$900,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $800,000$800,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
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      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      LW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $975,000$975,000
      C
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $825,000$825,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $1,125,000$1,125,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $4,166,666$4,166,666
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $2,800,000$2,800,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
      LD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $9,000,000$9,000,000
      RD
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $4,125,000$4,125,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
      LD
      RFA - 3
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $3,400,000$3,400,000
      LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
      $2,500,000$2,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
      LD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Calgary Flames
      $6,375,000$6,375,000
      C, LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New Jersey Devils
      $800,000$800,000
      RW
      RFA - 2

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      May 17, 2022 at 9:34 a.m.
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      How about Barbashev for Graves 1 for 1 from the Blues
      May 17, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
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      I don't see Monahan taking a 1st to dump
      May 17, 2022 at 9:36 a.m.
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      No chance it cost anywhere near a 1st to move Monahan
      May 17, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.
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      extremely glad that the first line of the description finished the joke started in the title

      i honestly think the Devils should take that Dadonov trade without blinking if they were offered it. showcase him in his walk year, make sure you study up on his NTC teams, and if you're out of the playoff hunt at TDL, trade him out for a a future. Get a 2nd to take him in and another 2nd to send him out - how can you lose?
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      May 17, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.
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      Quoting: Chopper02
      How about Barbashev for Graves 1 for 1 from the Blues


      Barbashev has been good this year, but doesn’t fill a glaring need. We need a definitive top 6 winger and Barbashev just broke out this year. Without Graves, we’re thin on LHD
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      May 17, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.
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      "Capstipation"

      laugh.jpg

      That got me pretty good.

      on a more serious note, i would have thought "taking on cap dumps/dead weight" was a bad thing. Y'all were on a good streak of not taking those deals.
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      May 17, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.
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      Quoting: Devsfan25
      Barbashev has been good this year, but doesn’t fill a glaring need. We need a definitive top 6 winger and Barbashev just broke out this year. Without Graves, we’re thin on LHD


      Nah, I'd take that trade for the Devils. We aren't competing this year and Graves is most likely not coming back when is contract is up (assuming we sign severson instead). Sure, we are thin this year if we trade Graves but we could also just sign a LHD in FA. After this year, we are loaded with LHD (Bahl, Siegs, Okhotyuk, L. Hughes, Shakir, maybe Topias Vilen).

      I'd take a flyer on Barbashev and see if he can repeat his performance
      May 17, 2022 at 9:50 a.m.
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      Quoting: Devsfan25
      Barbashev has been good this year, but doesn’t fill a glaring need. We need a definitive top 6 winger and Barbashev just broke out this year. Without Graves, we’re thin on LHD


      Fair enough. What about Barbashev plus Scandella? Won't play top minutes but can at least fill a gap.
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      May 17, 2022 at 9:52 a.m.
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      Love these. I know people are going to immediately jump all over them when you do them to say "NO WAY MY TEAMZ WOULD DO THAT!", but it's an excellent example of the way NJ has gone over the past number of years.

      That being said, and irrelevant to the above post, but John Gibson to NJ...let's make it happen.
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      May 17, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.
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      Quoting: Gmonwy
      I don't see Monahan taking a 1st to dump


      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      No chance it cost anywhere near a 1st to move Monahan


      I was using as an example of a type of trade Devils don’t normally make (even when they had the most cap space in the league, they avoided them).

      If I had said Monahan and 6th, people would say 6th is not enough…so it had to be Monahan and 1st as if, “even if Calgary is sending premium asset, it’s not a trade we make”
      May 17, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      Love these. I know people are going to immediately jump all over them when you do them to say "NO WAY MY TEAMZ WOULD DO THAT!", but it's an excellent example of the way NJ has gone over the past number of years.

      That being said, and irrelevant to the above post, but John Gibson to NJ...let's make it happen.


      I think Gibson to NJ would be great.
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      May 17, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      I think Gibson to NJ would be great.


      GIVE ME JACK HUGHES!

      Kidding. If you guys hadn't moved up so far with your 500th career lotto win, I'm sure we could have had an interesting convo about maybe moving up from the Boston pick or something, but there's no way 2OA gets moved for a goalie, and moving up from 10 to 2 just doesn't seem worth it this year. I'd be pretty interested in something that has Shak involved though.
      May 17, 2022 at 10:53 a.m.
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      Quoting: iforgotmyname
      Nah, I'd take that trade for the Devils. We aren't competing this year and Graves is most likely not coming back when is contract is up (assuming we sign severson instead). Sure, we are thin this year if we trade Graves but we could also just sign a LHD in FA. After this year, we are loaded with LHD (Bahl, Siegs, Okhotyuk, L. Hughes, Shakir, maybe Topias Vilen).

      I'd take a flyer on Barbashev and see if he can repeat his performance


      Barbashev is interesting to me as he would likely slide into Boqvist spot at 3C, probably better on both ends, but giving up a little in transition. Would also put Mercer at 1RW.

      A 3rd line of Foote - Barbashev - Zetterlund could fit Fitzy’s “heavier skill” approach.
      May 17, 2022 at 11:02 a.m.
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      That's a big 'no' from CGY. Somebody would take a reconstructed Mony for a low draft pick before CGY would ever give him away AND a 1st Rd Pick.
      May 17, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      I was using as an example of a type of trade Devils don’t normally make (even when they had the most cap space in the league, they avoided them).

      If I had said Monahan and 6th, people would say 6th is not enough…so it had to be Monahan and 1st as if, “even if Calgary is sending premium asset, it’s not a trade we make”


      I even disagree on a 6th, if he is healthy (and any team acquiring him would have full access to his medicals ofc) then I am quite confident Calgary will not be paying to move him
      May 17, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      I even disagree on a 6th, if he is healthy (and any team acquiring him would have full access to his medicals ofc) then I am quite confident Calgary will not be paying to move him


      Quoting: jcambers
      That's a big 'no' from CGY. Somebody would take a reconstructed Mony for a low draft pick before CGY would ever give him away AND a 1st Rd Pick.


      I was using it as an example of a trade the Devils would *not* do. So there is not anything to decline here.
      May 17, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
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      GIVE ME JACK HUGHES!

      Kidding. If you guys hadn't moved up so far with your 500th career lotto win, I'm sure we could have had an interesting convo about maybe moving up from the Boston pick or something, but there's no way 2OA gets moved for a goalie, and moving up from 10 to 2 just doesn't seem worth it this year. I'd be pretty interested in something that has Shak involved though.


      "With the 23rd pick in 2022 draft, the Anaheim Ducks select, from Northeastern University..."
      May 17, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      "With the 23rd pick in 2022 draft, the Anaheim Ducks select, from Northeastern University..."


      Hahahaha, well played...certainly a bit of a stretch with that pick tears of joy
      May 17, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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      Not even close to getting Roy out of Vegas.

      And fat chance of Brad Treliving attaching a 1st round pick to move Sean Monahan.
       
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