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Shakeup trades

Created by: Matthewslover
Initial Creation Date: May 17, 2022
Published: May 17, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Heinen, Danton2$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Rakell, Rickard5$4,750,000
Rutta, Jan3$2,500,000
Forsberg, Filip7$9,000,000
Fleury, Marc-André1$3,500,000
Boyle, Brian1$900,000
Murray, Ryan1$2,000,000
Lazar, Curtis3$1,650,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Scheifele, Mark
WPG
  1. Guentzel, Jake
2.
PIT
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver ($1,000,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi [RFA Rights]
  3. Zucker, Jason
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Tatar, Tomas
NJD
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,916,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$81,426,667$0$0$1,073,333

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
Forsberg, Filip
$9,000,000
LW
UFA
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Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Garland, Conor
$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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Tatar, Tomas
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Rakell, Rickard
$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA
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McGinn, Brock
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Carter, Jeff
$3,125,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Heinen, Danton
$2,250,000
LW, RW
RFA
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Boyle, Brian
$900,000
LW, C
UFA
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Blueger, Teddy
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Lazar, Curtis
$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$6,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Marino, John
$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
Rutta, Jan
$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA
Fleury, Marc-André
$3,500,000
G
UFA
Murray, Ryan
$2,000,000
LD
UFA
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Ruhwedel, Chad
$800,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Friedman, Mark
$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Scheifele, M.
Crosby, S.
Garland, C.
Forsberg, F.
Marino, J.
Power Play 2
Rakell, R.
Carter, J.
Tatar, T.
Ekman-Larsson, O.
Matheson, M.

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May 17 at 11:21 p.m.
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I think WPG should take that and run
May 17 at 11:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Devsfan25
I think WPG should take that and run


Lol true, I thought it would be jets fans that would have an issue with the trade tbh
May 17 at 11:26 p.m.
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Jets Decline
Does nothing for us
May 17 at 11:28 p.m.
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Either swap Marcus Pettersson for John Marino, or add Pitt's 2023 1st if you want to have a conversation
May 17 at 11:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Either swap Marcus Pettersson for John Marino, or add Pitt's 2023 1st if you want to have a conversation


LOL you want to dump Ekman Larsson and get Marino?
May 17 at 11:30 p.m.
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LOL you want to dump Ekman Larsson and get Marino?


LOL yourself, because Garland is in the trade in case you've forgotten
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May 17 at 11:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
LOL yourself, because Garland is in the trade in case you've forgotten


Yeah exactly, he's in the trade to incentivize taking on OEL while getting Kapanen and Petterssen.
May 17 at 11:44 p.m.
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Yeah exactly, he's in the trade to incentivize taking on OEL while getting Kapanen and Petterssen.


Well there isn't enough value coming back for Vancouver to consider this. Try again
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May 17 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Well there isn't enough value coming back for Vancouver to consider this. Try again


They get rid of Ekman Larsson while getting back a solid 3rd liner, a #4 and a 3rd for just Garland. Seems like a steal for Vancouver. If you want Marino you're gonna have to add a whole lot more to Vancovers side.
May 17 at 11:48 p.m.
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They get rid of Ekman Larsson while getting back a solid 3rd liner, a #4 and a 3rd for just Garland. Seems like a steal for Vancouver. If you want Marino you're gonna have to add a whole lot more to Vancovers side.


LMFAO, Canucks are retaining salary on OEL, that trade isn't about ridding themselves of him if that's the case. This is a steal for Pittsburgh, not Vancouver
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May 17 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
LMFAO, Canucks are retaining salary on OEL, that trade isn't about ridding themselves of him if that's the case. This is a steal for Pittsburgh, not Vancouver


Yeah 1M, the Pens still have to pay like 6m for 5 YEARS for a guy who should be paid like 4M for 3 years.
May 17 at 11:51 p.m.
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Guentzel's dope, but I have a feeling WPG is on his no-trade list. How much for Marino?
May 17 at 11:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Devsfan25
I think WPG should take that and run


Why? So we can add him to Connor, Ehlers, Perfetti and Wheeler pushing one of them down to the 3rd line but having no 2C all for 1 extra year of term? Jets should keep Scheif. Full Stop.

If they trade him it should be for exactly what we need. Wingers are the last thing we need, followed by left handed defenseman. What we do need is a top pair RHD, a replacement 2C or a top 10 draft pick.

In my view this sort of trade does nothing for us so I'm wondering from your perspective how would you create a lineup assuming the Jets agreed to this?
May 17 at 11:55 p.m.
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Canucks laugh and hang up
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May 17 at 11:57 p.m.
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OEL was good enough this season that they aren't gonna add considerable assets to move him. His skating was also massively improved from last season so there aren't any long-term effects from his knee surgery which was something I was worried about going into the season.
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May 18 at 12:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Devsfan25
I think WPG should take that and run


Quoting: Matthewslover
Lol true, I thought it would be jets fans that would have an issue with the trade tbh


Quoting: BatVader
Jets Decline
Does nothing for us


Quoting: CF18GM
Guentzel's dope, but I have a feeling WPG is on his no-trade list. How much for Marino?


Pens would be wise to decline that trade…

If letang walks and we trade Marino we’re left with ruhwedel and Friedman (2 7th D On the right side…) but IF FSG decides to blow stuff up then anything’s on the table…
If I’m PIT I ask for Pierre-luc Dubois to start the convo with a Marino package… I’d add also as I see PLD with more value
Counter?
May 18 at 12:07 a.m.
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Canucks laugh and hang up


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They get rid of Ekman Larsson while getting back a solid 3rd liner, a #4 and a 3rd for just Garland. Seems like a steal for Vancouver. If you want Marino you're gonna have to add a whole lot more to Vancovers side.


Quoting: Knuckl3s
LMFAO, Canucks are retaining salary on OEL, that trade isn't about ridding themselves of him if that's the case. This is a steal for Pittsburgh, not Vancouver


I rlly like garland…
What could PIT offer to get him?
Also remember GMJR is now in VAN I wonder if any of his guys would have higher value in his eyes but idk
May 18 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I rlly like garland…
What could PIT offer to get him?
Also remember GMJR is now in VAN I wonder if any of his guys would have higher value in his eyes but idk


Marino would be the starting cost for any of our top 6 guys
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May 18 at 12:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Matthewslover
Yeah 1M, the Pens still have to pay like 6m for 5 YEARS for a guy who should be paid like 4M for 3 years.


It appears my fellow Canuck fans agree with me and disagree with you
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May 18 at 12:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I rlly like garland…
What could PIT offer to get him?
Also remember GMJR is now in VAN I wonder if any of his guys would have higher value in his eyes but idk


Marino, or their 2023 1st +
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May 18 at 12:23 a.m.
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Why? So we can add him to Connor, Ehlers, Perfetti and Wheeler pushing one of them down to the 3rd line ]

Wheeler. should’ve been there for 2 years
May 18 at 1:15 a.m.
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Quoting: BatVader
Jets Decline
Does nothing for us


Getting the better player does nothing for you? I thought it’s always a good idea to get rid of cancer as well. You must have some heavy homer glasses on if you think Scheifele provides more value than Guentzel
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May 18 at 1:34 a.m.
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Getting the better player does nothing for you? I thought it’s always a good idea to get rid of cancer as well. You must have some heavy homer glasses on if you think Scheifele provides more value than Guentzel


Yeah, Guentzel is still a better player than Scheifele even though he's a winger as oppose to a center like Scheifele
May 18 at 2:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Matthewslover
Lol true, I thought it would be jets fans that would have an issue with the trade tbh


And they do, regarding the comments here, lol!

WPG don't need a winger but who the hell cares if you can get Guentzel for Scheifele. Move Perfetti to 2C or get 2C in FA or move Perfetti for 2C in a package.. this is a trade you can't decline
May 18 at 7:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Getting the better player does nothing for you? I thought it’s always a good idea to get rid of cancer as well. You must have some heavy homer glasses on if you think Scheifele provides more value than Guentzel

I wouldn’t say he’s the better player… Scheifele produces the same and plays the more important position
Trading our best trade chip for a player we don’t need, does nothing for us.
Jets need RHW and RHD… possibly RHC… which of those does this fill?
This does nothing for us
 
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