Every team says no so fast that it becomes not fun.

What do you think Toronto needs to add to each trade then to make them more realistic?

The Kings are not giving away their future Hall of Fame goaltender.

I figured with one year left and Cal Peterson being the goalie for the near future, Mrazek could split the load with him for 2 years. Last year notwithstanding, Mrazek has shown previously to be a decent goalie when platooned as a 1a/1b

I mean Toronto could add a prospect or another pick but i didn't think they needed to overpay for JQ at the twilight of his career.

I would imagine the Kings would talk to JQ before any trade happens and see if he is interested in trying to chase a cup, but this is just hypothetical

I'll give you credit for adding in your top prospects (Robertson and Knies) to the deals instead of lesser guys. But let's go through each one:

Nashville -- After all the swaps, you're asking the Predators to take on $6.67 mil in cap hit (total) and taking away their two best prospects/young players in Jeannot and Askarov. Nylander is a good player, but Nashville still has to try to navigate signing Forsberg in addition to figuring out the path that the organization wants to take. This just isn't something that the Preds could do at all, regardless of what you added. At a certain point, Toronto runs out of assets.

LA -- Mrazek is a cap dump, plain and simple. You're asking the Kings to send you one of their franchise icons who just played an incredible season the year before he likely retires. And you're asking LA to retain on that trade AND add a pick to it. For starters, you've got the pick going the wrong direction. Next, it would have to be significantly better than a 4th rounder. And lastly, it just won't happen. LA isn't trading Quick.

Kane -- You're asking a team to retain nearly 6mil on a star player. For illustration purposes, it took a 1st rounder for Toronto to dump 6mil of Marleau's contract. Kane the player is worth the prospects and picks you have. Kane's retention is worth at least another 1st.

At least, that's how I view the trades.

i dont think chi gets more than that

I think LA might be just as close to chasing a Cup as Toronto.

Just to clarify, I have the pick going to LA as part of the Mrazek deal... But if quick is a no go, I'm sure they could find another comparable goalie for short term

The dude just put up 92 points in 78 games on an absolutely HORRENDOUS team. He's older sure, but since he dictates where he goes with his NMC, you can be sure he'll go to a place he's likely to re-sign for much cheaper in an "end-of-career" type contract.

I dislike Kane and I dislike the Hawks, but the entire organization should fold if they only get 2 prospects and a couple third round picks for Kane.

Ah. Not sure why I misread that pick part. My apologies.

Regardless, speaking purely value, the pick isn't good enough to entice LA into being a spot for the Mrazek dump and retaining on their franchise goaltender.

I mean they finished with 16 less points than Toronto and are still building for the future. Toronto is already in their "cup window" and it is closing.

So unless they think they are legitimate cup contenders next year, I dont know why they wouldn't at least consider the idea of moving JQ for assets if he is willing to go.

But, I get you LA funs love JQ so nevermind haha

2 of the leafs top prospects. I could switch out the 2 3rds for 1st. I thought that was a bit much for a rental, regardless of how good he is.

I am actually surprised that out of all of this, the thing I am getting torched on is the Jonathon Quick deal... hahah

Like I said, because he can dictate where he lands I think there's a high chance of re-signing him for much cheaper than his current contract. I doubt it would be just a single year of Kane. He's not going to want to move constantly in the twilight of his career.



It's an indication of three things: 1) How good Quick was this year. 2) How other teams realize that a movement of Mrazek is just Toronto realizing the mistake they made with his contract and backpedaling. He was NOT good this year, to put it mildly, and to top it off he is oft-injured. Not the traits someone wants in a goaltender they are trading for.

And 3) Granted, tkecanuck and I are both Kings fans, so it makes sense that one is the one we can talk to the most.

his 10.5 is crazy, and he may be one of if not the worst defensive forwards in hockey, and like someone said 2 very good prospects, one of which the hawks already tried to acquire

That is horrid for LA. One year of Quick (and you want retention also) is supremely better than two years of Mrzarek.
Nashville keeps their three cheap young NHLers.....instead of 10.5m of a combined Nylander and Kerfoot...who are under control for just three years combined and Robertson.

CBJ could use Holl's size on the right side.

I'd counter with Emil Bemstrom instead of the 4th. Young, some scoring touch, has run out of spots with CBJ.

Askarov is currently behind Saros (there 27 year old starter whos signed for another 3 years) and possibly Ingram on the depth chart. He is a high draft pick with potential, but not a guarantee.

Jeannot had a good year, but realistically is an undrafted player that had one good year (shooting at just over19%). Scissions is a depth piece who is a legitimate 3rd liner.

Nylander would be to fill the void left by Forsberg if they are unable to resign him. They would also have cap room to extend Kerfoot for a similar price point which is not a bad option for a versatile forward that can play anywhere in their lineup. Robertson is a high draft pick with potential who hasn't had a real shot in the leafs lineup so far. I think there is value there and a potential trade could be made for a prospect goalie, an undrafted forward with one year NHL experience and a 3rd line winger.

This deal would obviously change if they re-sign Forsberg

Deal

Ok, forget Quick. Leafs send Mrazek to Arizona or anywhere else who will take him (with a pick or prospect obviously) and just re-sign Campbell or get a UFA goalie (Fleury, Holtby, Husso, etc)