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Guerin is going to give Fiala away

Created by: TanSor
Initial Creation Date: May 20, 2022
Published: May 20, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
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Guerin was on KFAN (local sports radio) the other day and defended Dumba adamantly to the detriment of Fiala when he was probed with the idea of keeping Fiala instead of Dumba. I have a feeling he's not going to ask for much and is going to give him away for pennies. Whoever ends up with him, they're getting one hell of a player.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dewar, Connor2$850,000
Middleton, Jacob3$2,900,000
Gaudette, Adam2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fleury, Marc-André1$3,500,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Gaudette, Adam [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
Similar return to Buchnevich trade, which was robbery by the Blues.
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
2.
MIN
  1. 2022 5th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
Additional Details:
Any team who needs a bottom pairing LD
Buyouts
  • Zach Parise: $6,371,794
  • Ryan Suter: $6,371,794
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$81,874,421$0$1,532,500$625,579
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
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Greenway, Jordan
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 7
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Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Boldy, Matthew
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Rossi, Marco
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
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Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
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Duhaime, Brandon
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Jost, Tyson
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Gaudette, Adam
$900,000
C, RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
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UFA - 6
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Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
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Middleton, Jacob
$2,900,000
LD
RFA
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Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Fleury, Marc-André
$3,500,000
G
UFA
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Merrill, Jon
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Goligoski, Alex
$2,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Dewar, Connor
$850,000
LW
RFA - 2
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Addison, Calen
$795,000
RD
RFA - 1

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May 20 at 10:48 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
82 game sample = forest
6 game sample = trees


Two different seasons. We have 13 postseason games and he vanishes
May 20 at 11:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Wildwinswhen
Two different seasons. We have 13 postseason games and he vanishes


Not going to try to convince you Fiala has been good, just gonna add a little extra context.

In 2019-20, Fiala was our best playoff player on a line with Eric Staal.
In 2020-21, Fiala played with Hartman and Johansson, so is it any wonder he didn't produce?
In 2021-22, Fiala played with Boldy and Gaudreau. Gaudreau disappeared even harder than Fiala did, and Boldy LOOKED like a rookie out there.

So we didn't learn anything new that we didn't already know. The only difference is in the playoffs we seem to shift the blame from Guerin and Evason not putting him in a position to succeed, to Fiala. Despite the fact that nothing really changed.

Looking at those seasons statistically from a team perspective, the only guys in the last three years that have outscored Fiala in the playoffs are Spurgeon and Kaprizov. Notably, Zuccarello has one single goal in his three playoff runs here, and less points than Fiala does. And he's the one attached to Kaprizov.

Fiala needs to be better going forward in the playoffs, but we as a fanbase need to stop pretending Fiala is exceedingly bad. He is constantly used as a scapegoat by media (namely Russo) and fans (especially on Twitter, yes I realize it's a cesspool). It's tired and played out.

It is not a tale of two different seasons or players. It is the same player with the same flaws we already knew about. It's not the reason we're losing. If you're looking for the reason we're losing, look at the GM who constructed this roster and the coach who's in charge of deploying it every game.

Fiala will get traded, most likely to a team that recognizes that in order to get the best out of your players, you need to give them something to work with. And he'll continue scoring in the regular season, and he'll produce in the playoffs too with a competent GM and coach.
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May 21 at 5:36 a.m.
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Quoting: TanSor
tears of joy you're right. Still though, I just don't trust Guerin to maximize Fiala's value


tldr summery:
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May 21 at 10:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Not going to try to convince you Fiala has been good, just gonna add a little extra context.

In 2019-20, Fiala was our best playoff player on a line with Eric Staal.
In 2020-21, Fiala played with Hartman and Johansson, so is it any wonder he didn't produce?
In 2021-22, Fiala played with Boldy and Gaudreau. Gaudreau disappeared even harder than Fiala did, and Boldy LOOKED like a rookie out there.

So we didn't learn anything new that we didn't already know. The only difference is in the playoffs we seem to shift the blame from Guerin and Evason not putting him in a position to succeed, to Fiala. Despite the fact that nothing really changed.

Looking at those seasons statistically from a team perspective, the only guys in the last three years that have outscored Fiala in the playoffs are Spurgeon and Kaprizov. Notably, Zuccarello has one single goal in his three playoff runs here, and less points than Fiala does. And he's the one attached to Kaprizov.

Fiala needs to be better going forward in the playoffs, but we as a fanbase need to stop pretending Fiala is exceedingly bad. He is constantly used as a scapegoat by media (namely Russo) and fans (especially on Twitter, yes I realize it's a cesspool). It's tired and played out.

It is not a tale of two different seasons or players. It is the same player with the same flaws we already knew about. It's not the reason we're losing. If you're looking for the reason we're losing, look at the GM who constructed this roster and the coach who's in charge of deploying it every game.

Fiala will get traded, most likely to a team that recognizes that in order to get the best out of your players, you need to give them something to work with. And he'll continue scoring in the regular season, and he'll produce in the playoffs too with a competent GM and coach.


Fiala is a streaky scorer like Nino. He'll get his goals in the regular season because it's a long time, so his streak eventually shows up. But over any one 6 game period he could be either a 0 pts player or a 6 pts player and there's no way to tell which Fiala will show up. But, in the postseason, it's been low scoring Fiala who shows up.

With regard to last year with Hartman and Johannsen. Hartman has scored alot of goals this year with KK on his line. So he's not worthless. To say that Fiala couldn't score last postseason because he was paired with Hartman is just short sighted. Also, Fiala thought he should be paid more than 6.5M this year, so he must think he's worth 8M now. 8M dollar players make their linemates better.

I just don't see that future for him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

But my main concern was how negative GMBG is about him. That points to a Nino style trade rather than a Zucker style trade (or better) which was my concern
 
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