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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 21, 2022
Published: May 21, 2022
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2$2,000,000
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3$3,500,000
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2$1,750,000
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May 21, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.
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All four teams say no.
May 21, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Leaf fans have to understand that with no guarantee of a Nylander extension, there is no big prize. Mercer is pretty important to the young core and should only be dealt for a long term piece as well.
May 21, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Leaf fans have to understand that with no guarantee of a Nylander extension, there is no big prize. Mercer is pretty important to the young core and should only be dealt for a long term piece as well.


Devils are getting the best player in the deal. And they can easily resign Nylander when his deal is up in two years.

A deal like this is a win-win for both sides. Devils need scoring in their top six and the Leafs need a more balanced line up with players on a less cap hit.
May 21, 2022 at 4:09 p.m.
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Devils are getting the best player in the deal. And they can easily resign Nylander when his deal is up in two years.

A deal like this is a win-win for both sides. Devils need scoring in their top six and the Leafs need a more balanced line up with players on a less cap hit.


I'm not arguing Nylander isn't the better player. What I can say is that there is no guarantee of locking up Nylander even if there is cap room, so why take the risk when the Devils window isn't the next two years where they HAVE to win. This just give TOR a longer term asset that is a high quality player and the cap space. Does not work for NJD.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying the value isn't there, more so it isn't the right move for the Devils.
May 21, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Leaf fans have to understand that with no guarantee of a Nylander extension, there is no big prize. Mercer is pretty important to the young core and should only be dealt for a long term piece as well.


Somehow that doesn't apply for any other team eh? Like JT Miller is worth twice this package as a rental but 2 years of Nylander has no value because why?
May 21, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Devils are getting the best player in the deal. And they can easily resign Nylander when his deal is up in two years.

A deal like this is a win-win for both sides. Devils need scoring in their top six and the Leafs need a more balanced line up with players on a less cap hit.


It's entirely a win for New Jersey and a loss for TO.
May 21, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.
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Devils are getting the best player in the deal. And they can easily resign Nylander when his deal is up in two years.

A deal like this is a win-win for both sides. Devils need scoring in their top six and the Leafs need a more balanced line up with players on a less cap hit.


Also spending the same amount of money on 2 depth players as you pay Nylander doesn't make up for the loss of a point a game game breaker. It weakens your offence big time and replaces it with guys who can't make a difference on their own.
May 21, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.
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Somehow that doesn't apply for any other team eh? Like JT Miller is worth twice this package as a rental but 2 years of Nylander has no value because why?


Well the difference here is if teams are trying to trade for an extension. You can't extend a guy with the trade with two years left, but someone trading for Miller can, make sense?
May 21, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.
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Also spending the same amount of money on 2 depth players as you pay Nylander doesn't make up for the loss of a point a game game breaker. It weakens your offence big time and replaces it with guys who can't make a difference on their own.


Not going to try going at obvious bias TOR fans.

For the Devils, yes Nylander is the better player, but with NO guarantee of years beyond the two, why would the Devils make this deal? At least with Mercer, who has been very good at top RW with Hughes, the Devils have him as an asset until 27, so the years beyond year two of guarantee of Nylander still favors the Devils as they still try to build what they are building.
May 21, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Well the difference here is if teams are trying to trade for an extension. You can't extend a guy with the trade with two years left, but someone trading for Miller can, make sense?


Not remotely. Miller would have been worth even more at last year's deadline because that's 2 years of his services. Nylander is a 26 year old point a game player who doesn't even get 1st line minutes. He's worth a lot more than a couple of depth forwards. Especially since you get 2 years to convince him he can be part of the long term success of a young and up coming team.
May 21, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Not going to try going at obvious bias TOR fans.

For the Devils, yes Nylander is the better player, but with NO guarantee of years beyond the two, why would the Devils make this deal? At least with Mercer, who has been very good at top RW with Hughes, the Devils have him as an asset until 27, so the years beyond year two of guarantee of Nylander still favors the Devils as they still try to build what they are building.


Speaking of bias eh?
May 21, 2022 at 4:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Speaking of bias eh?


Find the bias in there....I am only speaking in years of service...so where is the bias?
May 21, 2022 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Somehow that doesn't apply for any other team eh? Like JT Miller is worth twice this package as a rental but 2 years of Nylander has no value because why?


I don't think anyone is saying that Nylander doesn't have any value, but that the value doesn't make sense for NJ right now. Their biggest problem is in net, and Nylander doesn't solve that. Swapping out Mercer (17-25-42 in his age-20 NHL season, btw, so a good shot of him developing into a 65-70 point guy) and Zacha (meh) for Nylander doesn't make the Devils an obvious playoff team in the Metro, so that's why it doesn't make sense for the Devils to move on from a younger player that lines up more with their contention window.
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May 21, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.
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I've seen Holl to Columbus for a 4th about 30 times now
May 21, 2022 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Not remotely. Miller would have been worth even more at last year's deadline because that's 2 years of his services. Nylander is a 26 year old point a game player who doesn't even get 1st line minutes. He's worth a lot more than a couple of depth forwards. Especially since you get 2 years to convince him he can be part of the long term success of a young and up coming team.


Miller would've gotten that at the deadline from cup contending teams looking for a boost for a playoff push and the extra year at his current contract before letting him go. Now Miller has interest from other, different teams looking to extend him for the long term. 2 entirely different types of interested parties.
May 21, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.
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I don't think anyone is saying that Nylander doesn't have any value, but that the value doesn't make sense for NJ right now. Their biggest problem is in net, and Nylander doesn't solve that. Swapping out Mercer (17-25-42 in his age-20 NHL season, btw, so a good shot of him developing into a 65-70 point guy) and Zacha (meh) for Nylander doesn't make the Devils an obvious playoff team in the Metro, so that's why it doesn't make sense for the Devils to move on from a younger player that lines up more with their contention window.


Every 40 point player is obviously going to be Nylander
May 21, 2022 at 6:53 p.m.
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Miller would've gotten that at the deadline from cup contending teams looking for a boost for a playoff push and the extra year at his current contract before letting him go. Now Miller has interest from other, different teams looking to extend him for the long term. 2 entirely different types of interested parties.


Why on earth wouldn't a team want to resign Nylander?
May 21, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Every 40 point player is obviously going to be Nylander


Good job missing the entire point of my post there.

Again, because it obviously seems difficult for you to think of how a move affects any team other than Toronto: Willie Nylander doesn't make the Devils a playoff team next year. They need a goaltender. So unless William Nylander is going to learn how to be Marty Brodeur 2.0, it makes no sense for the Devils to give up a young, cost-controlled player as the centerpiece of a package that gets them a player that will most likely move on in 2 years. Put it this way: If you swapped Willie Nylander and Dawson Mercer this year, you would've added 17 goals to the Devils totals--hell, I'll even give you 30 added goals considering Nylander also had 21 more assists than Mercer this year.

The Devils would still have a -29 goal differential - so they'd probably finish with 75 points instead of 63.

Tell me again why the Devils, specifically, would want to make this deal, though.
May 21, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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Good job missing the entire point of my post there.

Again, because it obviously seems difficult for you to think of how a move affects any team other than Toronto: Willie Nylander doesn't make the Devils a playoff team next year. They need a goaltender. So unless William Nylander is going to learn how to be Marty Brodeur 2.0, it makes no sense for the Devils to give up a young, cost-controlled player as the centerpiece of a package that gets them a player that will most likely move on in 2 years. Put it this way: If you swapped Willie Nylander and Dawson Mercer this year, you would've added 17 goals to the Devils totals--hell, I'll even give you 30 added goals considering Nylander also had 21 more assists than Mercer this year.

The Devils would still have a -29 goal differential - so they'd probably finish with 75 points instead of 63.

Tell me again why the Devils, specifically, would want to make this deal, though.


Because Nylander is elite and Mercer isn't and teams always want to trade for elite talent. Nylander has the potential to put up 90-100 points if he's put on the first line or given linemates he has chemistry with. Mercer may put up 60-70 points in the future but Nylander has proven to do so in multiple years, including when he was a rookie.

Again, the Devils are getting the better end of this deal. Leafs will likely lose any Nylander trade.
May 21, 2022 at 7:14 p.m.
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Because Nylander is elite and Mercer isn't and teams always want to trade for elite talent. Nylander has the potential to put up 90-100 points if he's put on the first line or given linemates he has chemistry with. Mercer may put up 60-70 points in the future but Nylander has proven to do so in multiple years, including when he was a rookie.

Again, the Devils are getting the better end of this deal. Leafs will likely lose any Nylander trade.


How much better is Nylander than Jesper Bratt (26-47-73 this season)? Is he that much better that *poof* the Devils become one of the top 8 teams in the East next season if they put him as RW1 and Bratt down to RW2?

I'm not saying that the Devils aren't getting the better player here, I'm just saying it's awful asset management for them. If they are going to trade a 20 year old kid who already looks like a top 6 forward, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a rebuilding team to turn him into an older top 6 forward that doesn't make their defense or goaltending any better.
May 21, 2022 at 7:15 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Good job missing the entire point of my post there.

Again, because it obviously seems difficult for you to think of how a move affects any team other than Toronto: Willie Nylander doesn't make the Devils a playoff team next year. They need a goaltender. So unless William Nylander is going to learn how to be Marty Brodeur 2.0, it makes no sense for the Devils to give up a young, cost-controlled player as the centerpiece of a package that gets them a player that will most likely move on in 2 years. Put it this way: If you swapped Willie Nylander and Dawson Mercer this year, you would've added 17 goals to the Devils totals--hell, I'll even give you 30 added goals considering Nylander also had 21 more assists than Mercer this year.

The Devils would still have a -29 goal differential - so they'd probably finish with 75 points instead of 63.

Tell me again why the Devils, specifically, would want to make this deal, though.


They could feel closer than you think.
May 21, 2022 at 7:31 p.m.
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They could feel closer than you think.


Everyone made a big deal about Dallas making the playoffs with a negative goal differential this year - and this hypothetical Devils team would still be more than 20 goals behind them.

And that's in the West! In the East, the worst goal differential for a playoff team was Washington at +30 - the Devils would have had to given up or scored nearly NINETY more goals to get to that level. You could've dropped Auston Matthews on this team, for free, and they still wouldn't have come near that.

Again, the issue is not that the trade is unfair, or that Nylander is a bad player, or anything like that. It's that the Devils shouldn't be trading a young top 6 forward for an older top 6 forward, no matter how much better he is. If they're going to move any of their young, NHL-ready forwards, they should be looking at moving them for a goalie. Which means that Toronto has nothing that interests them right now.
May 21, 2022 at 11:44 p.m.
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Everyone made a big deal about Dallas making the playoffs with a negative goal differential this year - and this hypothetical Devils team would still be more than 20 goals behind them.

And that's in the West! In the East, the worst goal differential for a playoff team was Washington at +30 - the Devils would have had to given up or scored nearly NINETY more goals to get to that level. You could've dropped Auston Matthews on this team, for free, and they still wouldn't have come near that.

Again, the issue is not that the trade is unfair, or that Nylander is a bad player, or anything like that. It's that the Devils shouldn't be trading a young top 6 forward for an older top 6 forward, no matter how much better he is. If they're going to move any of their young, NHL-ready forwards, they should be looking at moving them for a goalie. Which means that Toronto has nothing that interests them right now.


They did go through 6 or 7 goalies. You'd think they would have better health luck next year.
May 21, 2022 at 11:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
They did go through 6 or 7 goalies. You'd think they would have better health luck next year.


The problem is that none of those 7 guys looked any good - the best SV% on that team was Jonathan Bernier's .902 that he put up over 10 games before getting hurt.

At the end of the day, I think Nylander stays in Toronto, for what it's worth. It's doubtful that the Leafs would get back fair value for him, and that alone makes it worth trying to work around his deal. You can move Kerfoot, you can dangle one of Sandin or Liljegren to try and get a younger impact forward to replace Kerfoot. Or you hope one of those forwards from the Hirvonen/SDA/Abramov/Abruzzese/Robertson group has a huge camp and can slide up there instead. Weirder stuff has happened.
May 23, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Why on earth wouldn't a team want to resign Nylander?


It's not a that a team wouldn't, it's that a trade for Nylander would come with no guarantee of an extension. If Van trades Miller, there will almost certainly be an extension in place. If a team trades for Nylander now, they can't even extend him until the year after, which means that a chance at an extension is not guaranteed and he can just walk.
 
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