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Created by: JustanIdea
Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 21, 2022
Published: May 21, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
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SJS
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Sanderson, Jake
  3. Thomson, Lassi
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Also on that list



One or the other of JBD or Thomson
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
15$81,500,000$43,474,083$0$450,000$38,025,917
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$997,500$997,500
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$737,500$737,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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May 21, 2022 at 9:50 p.m.
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So who exactly is available? You’d have to give up quite a bit, 1st plus top prospect, to start the conversation
May 21, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.
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You gotta give to get. Is norris available?
List of untouchables
Anyone good on our team or
Any prospects that are decent
May 21, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
So who exactly is available? You’d have to give up quite a bit, 1st plus top prospect, to start the conversation


yeah idk if he expects that the combo of Brown + Tierney will get the job done
May 21, 2022 at 9:52 p.m.
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yeah idk if he expects that the combo of Brown + Tierney will get the job done


Yeah that wouldn’t get Timo’s nail clippings
May 21, 2022 at 9:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
You gotta give to get. Is norris available?
List of untouchables
Anyone good on our team or
Any prospects that are decent


Dude, you can have our entire prospect pool other than one of Thomson and JBD and Soggard. Any one else the rest are the core.


Quoting: Islesforthecup
You gotta give to get. Is norris available?
List of untouchables
Anyone good on our team or
Any prospects that are decent



Yeah, okay, so the core is untouchable what's wrong with that.

You could probably take out Thomson, JBD, and Soggard but that is the list. That's the core.
May 21, 2022 at 9:54 p.m.
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Quoting: NoWah49
yeah idk if he expects that the combo of Brown + Tierney will get the job done


Can you answer the question. Just is he available, that was the point of this.
May 21, 2022 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: JustanIdea
Can you answer the question. Just is he available, that was the point of this.


what do you expect? At least a 1st and one of your untouchables starts the convo. Maybe like the 1st, Formenton or Greig, and Pinto gets close but I can't imagine Sens fans want to do that
May 21, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.
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I can understand Brady, Norris, Stutzle, Chabot, and maybe Batherson being unavailable simply because it's counterproductive to move any of them for Meier. Maybe Sanderson too. But everyone else should definitely be on the table for him and saying they aren't is pretty troll
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May 21, 2022 at 10:04 p.m.
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You can't have 13 untouchables and expect to trade for anyone of value lol
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May 21, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: JustanIdea
Dude, you can have our entire prospect pool other than one of Thomson and JBD and Soggard. Any one else the rest are the core.





Yeah, okay, so the core is untouchable what's wrong with that.

You could probably take out Thomson, JBD, and Soggard but that is the list. That's the core.


“You can have any of our prospects, just not our top 10 prospects, for your top scorer this season who was a point per game player and is only 25 yo.”
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May 21, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.
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Dude, you can have our entire prospect pool other than one of Thomson and JBD and Soggard. Any one else the rest are the core.





Yeah, okay, so the core is untouchable what's wrong with that.

You could probably take out Thomson, JBD, and Soggard but that is the list. That's the core.


A core is 4 maybe 5 players not 17
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May 21, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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Don't think he's really available in the first place but that's especially true if 89 players in the Sens organization are "untouchable"
May 21, 2022 at 11:02 p.m.
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This year's #1 (7th OA) and one of Thomson/JDB (San Jose's choice) to start. I think you have to offer at least a future 2nd, if not conditional 1st, and then throw another player at them - I think if you offered up Mathieu Joseph, they'd bite.
May 21, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
Don't think he's really available in the first place but that's especially true if 89 players in the Sens organization are "untouchable"


Hi, I'm really interested in getting Norris. We can offer anyone not named:

Meier
Barabanov
Eklund
Bordeleau
Wiesblatt
Gushchin
Robins
Coe
Weatherby
Reedy
Gregor
Chmelevski
Balcers
Couture
Hertl
Gaudreau
Chrona
Mann
Dahlen
Laroque
Cardwell


So what will it take to get Norris that isn't untouchable.


(wtf)
May 21, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
This year's #1 (7th OA) and one of Thomson/JDB (San Jose's choice) to start. I think you have to offer at least a future 2nd, if not conditional 1st, and then throw another player at them - I think if you offered up Mathieu Joseph, they'd bite.


Wrong. That's a terrible offer.
May 21, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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Wrong. That's a terrible offer.


We're trading our 9 OA pick from the deepest draft in 30 years for the 7th pick in a very weak draft and a B level prospect? Atrocious.
May 21, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
This year's #1 (7th OA) and one of Thomson/JDB (San Jose's choice) to start. I think you have to offer at least a future 2nd, if not conditional 1st, and then throw another player at them - I think if you offered up Mathieu Joseph, they'd bite.
May 21, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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Quoting: crankshaft
We're trading our 9 OA pick from the deepest draft in 30 years for the 7th pick in a very weak draft and a B level prospect? Atrocious.


i agree its not a good trade to make for the shark but thats just an argument that makes absolutly no sense. like you dont have more value cause your draft class was good.
May 21, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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Quoting: JustanIdea
Can you answer the question. Just is he available, that was the point of this.


I wouldn't say he's 'available,' but if an offer came in that made sense; Sharks would do it. New GM might want to start fresh in a way.

Edit: And nothing that you consider available would make sense.
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May 21, 2022 at 11:28 p.m.
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Formenton, Greig, Pinto, Soogard, Thomson and JBD all shouldn't be considered "untouchable" at all. "only move them if it's REALLY for the right deal", absolulely. they're not guys you just put out there to see what you can get, but a Meier deal would start with 7OA and at least one of those guys.
May 22, 2022 at 5:49 a.m.
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Dude, you can have our entire prospect pool other than one of Thomson and JBD and Soggard. Any one else the rest are the core.





Yeah, okay, so the core is untouchable what's wrong with that.

You could probably take out Thomson, JBD, and Soggard but that is the list. That's the core.


You want timo meier but arent willing to give up anything of value to get him. Its like if the isles wanted brady but werent interested on moving
Barzal
Beauvillier
Wahlstrom
Pulock
Pelech
Dobson
Nelson
Raty
Sorokin
Pageau
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"Yeah ok so the core is untouchable whats wrong with that" nothings wrong with it per se just that nobodys gonna make that trade bc theres nothing coming back the other way.
 
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