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2021-22 NHL Off-season Discussion Thread - #2

Jun. 15, 2022 at 12:17 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
But thats because Colorado was still finishing their rebuild, and they still have more future assets than Florida currently


Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
But thats because Colorado was still finishing their rebuild, and they still have more future assets than Florida currently


I don’t get what you’re trying to say, before this season started the panthers and Avs were in the same spot in terms of contending. They both gave up a ton of assets to put them over the top.
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
The started the transition to contending last year, and imo it was a bad idea, because the contention with that will only stand for 3 pr 4 years, or they fully completed their rebuild, and they would've contended fro 7 years
Bad decision making


The only path to being bad was to trade Barkov and Ekblad, is that what you’re suggesting?
Jun. 15, 2022 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
The only path to being bad was to trade Barkov and Ekblad, is that what you’re suggesting?


Other than Lundell and Knight who were obvious picks, their drafting is meh. Tippett and Denisenko should’ve been legit top 6 players by now based on where they got drafted . They have no good D prospect or good young D.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 12:22 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
https://twitter.com/KevinWeekes/status/1536907580806774788?s=20&t=cmOhDo_SkIeIC51dNc9zng
The embed doesn't work for the same reason, again. It just seems like a perfect fit for the Flyers & torts






Pls Trevor, pull this off in PHI next year
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: csick
Other than Lundell and Knight who were obvious picks, their drafting is meh. Tippett and Denisenko should’ve been legit top 6 players by now based on where they got drafted . They have no good D prospect or good young D.


I thought sameskovich was a good pick, he has top 6 potential. Michael Benning is a good D prospect.

The panthers have one of the best D pairs in the NHL (both Weegar and Ekblad are under 30) and Forsling is one of the best 2nd pair D in the league.

You can focus on the failed draft picks before Zito was GM, but since he arrived the panthers have been the best team in the league at finding undervalued talent. Verhaeghe , Marchment, Forsling , you can even throw duclair in there.

That will continue to happen. Watch Zito trade a 3rd for someone that’s valued as a bottom 6 winger and he explodes playing on the 2nd line with Huberdeau and Lundell
Jun. 15, 2022 at 12:59 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 15, 2022 at 1:11 a.m.
Honestly if Im Lou I would look at Hague of the VGK

The Kids 6'6 and 221 pounds

And has some good numbers at both ends

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/hagueni01.html

Also would make for a huge Dcore

Hague 6'6 221 pounds
Mayfield 6'5 220 pounds
Dobson 6'4 195 pounds
Pelech 6'3 205 pounds
Pulock 6'2 215 pounds
Salo 6'2 192 pounds

Probs could get him for a 2nd and 3rd as Vegas needs to shed salary fast as they got Roy and Kolesar to sign
Jun. 15, 2022 at 1:23 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Honestly if Im Lou I would look at Hague of the VGK

The Kids 6'6 and 221 pounds

And has some good numbers at both ends

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/hagueni01.html

Also would make for a huge Dcore

Hague 6'6 221 pounds
Mayfield 6'5 220 pounds
Dobson 6'4 195 pounds
Pelech 6'3 205 pounds
Pulock 6'2 215 pounds
Salo 6'2 192 pounds

Probs could get him for a 2nd and 3rd as Vegas needs to shed salary fast as they got Roy and Kolesar to sign

That’s counter-intuitive. Hague isn’t gonna cost much and is good. He’s the type of guy Vegas isn’t gonna trade at all, because he’s the type of guy they’ll need to step up into a top 4 role for cheap if they have to move Martinez or McNabb to make the cap work.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 1:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
That’s counter-intuitive. Hague isn’t gonna cost much and is good. He’s the type of guy Vegas isn’t gonna trade at all, because he’s the type of guy they’ll need to step up into a top 4 role for cheap if they have to move Martinez or McNabb to make the cap work.


They just extended McNabb though and statistically Vegas does better with Martinez in the lineup especially defensively.

I feel Hague will be moved and they will prioritize keeping Kolesar and Roy as what was the point in extending McNabb if they wanted to move him. Seems it would have been better to let him walk and keep Hague if that was the plan.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 1:46 a.m.
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They just extended McNabb though and statistically Vegas does better with Martinez in the lineup especially defensively.

I feel Hague will be moved and they will prioritize keeping Kolesar and Roy as what was the point in extending McNabb if they wanted to move him. Seems it would have been better to let him walk and keep Hague if that was the plan.

Bold of you to assume Vegas has a plan. Or cares about their players lol
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 1:48 a.m.
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Bold of you to assume Vegas has a plan. Or cares about their players lol


Thats why I think Hague's gone as logically they should keep him but it seems Vegas prefers to do anything that is not logical wink

After all they gave away MAF who won the Vezina for free

Brisson better watch his back as hes probs next
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:34 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
It's the classic case of: they tried to contend too quickly


i dont think so. they shot themselves in the foot. after having a season like they just did you have to go for it. they're still a top team despite choking.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:40 a.m.
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tortz to philly allegedly in the works. thats an interesting match.
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 7:37 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
tortz to philly allegedly in the works. thats an interesting match.


It’s such a fLyers move too lol, even if he shouldn’t really coach anymore
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 8:10 a.m.
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Don’t we need a third thread
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
I agree with you, I still wouldn’t hesitate to trade a goalie prospect for a top line winger.

I’m not a fan of Tippett and Philly for whatever reason wanted him. I don’t think Tippett will be anything more than a bottom 6 winger, he was really bad on the panthers. I think Zito was right for going all in for Giroux, he had every reason to believe they can contend for the cup this year. Again, I still have no idea why he traded for Chiarot


Ya I agree.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
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Don’t we need a third thread


Yeah guys c'mon we know better.
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