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trade down

Created by: dickie_boon
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2022
Published: May 23, 2022
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bratt, Jesper8$8,000,000
Zadina, Filip2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Forsberg, Filip7$9,000,000
Rutta, Jan2$4,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Jiricek, David3$925,000
Trades
1.
NJD
    ARI
    1. Tatar, Tomas
    2. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
    2.
    NJD
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (LAK)
    NSH
    1. Johnsson, Andreas ($1,700,000 retained)
    3.
    NJD
    1. Zadina, Filip [RFA Rights]
    2. 2022 1st round pick (DET)
    3. 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
    4. 2022 4th round pick (VGK)
    DET
    1. 2022 1st round pick (NJD)
    cant wait to receive all the hate from wings fans
    4.
    NJD
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (TBL)
    CBJ
    1. Boqvist, Jesper [RFA Rights]
    5.
    NJD
    1. Sheary, Conor
    WSH
    1. Zacha, Pavel [RFA Rights]
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (TBL)
    Buyouts
    • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Andreas Johnsson: $1,700,000 (50%)
    Recapture Fees
    • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
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    Logo of the CBJ
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    2023
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    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$82,500,000$77,285,000$0$1,650,000$5,215,000
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Forsberg, Filip
    $9,000,000
    LW
    UFA
    Logo of the NJD
    Hughes, Jack
    $8,000,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the NJD
    Bratt, Jesper
    $8,000,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
    Logo of the NJD
    Holtz, Alexander
    $894,167
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the NJD
    Hischier, Nico
    $7,250,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the NJD
    Mercer, Dawson
    $894,167
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    Zadina, Filip
    $2,000,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
    Logo of the NJD
    Sharangovich, Yegor
    $2,000,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the WSH
    Sheary, Conor
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Kuokkanen, Janne
    $1,825,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Mcleod, Michael
    $975,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Bastian, Nathan
    $825,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the NJD
    Smith, Ty
    $863,333
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $9,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the NJD
    Blackwood, Mackenzie
    $2,800,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Siegenthaler, Jonas
    $1,125,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Severson, Damon
    $4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Bernier, Jonathan
    $4,125,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the NJD
    Graves, Ryan
    $3,166,667
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Rutta, Jan
    $4,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA
    Jiricek, David
    $925,000

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    May 23 at 10:36 a.m.
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    Would you like a box of Kleenex?
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    May 23 at 10:37 a.m.
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    I’d do that from Detroit to grab Cooley.
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    May 23 at 10:40 a.m.
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    I don't know why the Devils would trade back o pick up Zadina. The two big RHD would be gone by then and the Devils would be back to quantity, not quality. Just make the pick.
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    May 23 at 10:43 a.m.
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    Just because im curious, NJD fans, what would be the ask for OTT's 7OA?
    May 23 at 10:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: PLDGEY
    Just because im curious, NJD fans, what would be the ask for OTT's 7OA?


    Not sure there is a right fit. Then again, I come into this with no interest in trading the pick.

    Seven is the last spot with a guy I would be good with (this was before the lottery), but I also feel the drop in quality from 5 to 6 could be big too.
    May 23 at 10:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: PLDGEY
    Just because im curious, NJD fans, what would be the ask for OTT's 7OA?


    Not a Devils fan, but probably more than what would make it worth it, TBH. Who are you trying to get at 2OA?
    May 23 at 10:50 a.m.
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    Edit: How in the heck did I triple post?!
    May 23 at 10:57 a.m.
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    Honestly, the talent available this year isnt too bad from 1-8. Im ok shooting for a Savoie or Geekie at 8.

    That said, this trade isnt horrible either. at 2 you pretty much have Cooley or a stud in Slafkovsky. Options are good there too. It all depends on what Yzerman sees for that value of the move. His picks have been good so far so Im not about to say what he would do or wouldnt do here...

    If I were running the team though, I would strongly consider this to grab Cooley... But that would depend on how my scouts compare him to Savoie & Geekie as possible replacements.
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    May 23 at 11:13 a.m.
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    Would you like a box of Kleenex?


    lmao
    May 23 at 11:27 a.m.
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    Take out the 2nd and I take that for Detroit. it's moving up 6 spots I think Zadina is enough.
    May 23 at 11:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    Not sure there is a right fit. Then again, I come into this with no interest in trading the pick.

    Seven is the last spot with a guy I would be good with (this was before the lottery), but I also feel the drop in quality from 5 to 6 could be big too.


    Yeah thats my take as well. IMHO there are the clear 7, then some interesting options afterwards. Thats why I wondered what NJ fans would want, as 7OA still offers a solid option.
    May 23 at 11:31 a.m.
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    I’d do that from Detroit to grab Cooley.


    I'd take Nemec, Cooley is tiny. Plus it would make keeping Hronek less important.
    May 23 at 11:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    Not a Devils fan, but probably more than what would make it worth it, TBH. Who are you trying to get at 2OA?


    Im not obsessed with anyone, its statistically not worth it to trade up. Just wondering what the ask would be
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    May 23 at 12:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: PLDGEY
    Yeah thats my take as well. IMHO there are the clear 7, then some interesting options afterwards. Thats why I wondered what NJ fans would want, as 7OA still offers a solid option.


    I agree, its top 7 overall then a big drop off, but I feel the Devils would have taken one of the RHD had they not won the lottery. I kind of see it as 1,2,3...then the two RHD 4,5...then the 6th and 7th forwards.
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    May 23 at 12:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: aedoran
    I'd take Nemec, Cooley is tiny. Plus it would make keeping Hronek less important.


    Size means s*it in this league that now relies on skill
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    May 23 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Devils may drop out of #2 pick since the most obvious names are centers, a position teams may overpay for. But I cannot imagine we look further than #3 or #4. A drop to #7 or #8 would probably ask for a core piece that neither of those teams would give up (more than Zadina).
    May 23 at 7:21 p.m.
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    Size means s*it in this league that now relies on skill


    fr Yamamoto is literally the weight of High school freshmen/sophomores 💀
    May 23 at 7:57 p.m.
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    Size means s*it in this league that now relies on skill


    True but you have to make the NHL for that argument to appply. 85 players are 5'10" or shorter and 1000 players played games this season. So that's 8.5% are 5'10" or shorter. 2005 is the last draft class with a players 5'10" shorter that's 17 draft classes. Now 2008 was the last draft class with a significant amount of players still playing and take the 2020 and 2019 draft classes and that is about 7 players per draft class 5'10" or shorter. Out of those 85 players only 26 hit double digits in points. So size is more of factor than you think.
    May 24 at 10:38 a.m.
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    Wings probably accept. I would rather not give up on Zadina yet, but grabbing Cooley is worth it. We can replace Zadina with a UFA or another prospect. Detroit has no other opportunities to grab a guy like Cooley.
    May 24 at 12:32 p.m.
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    If Boqvist only costs a 3rd, the Wild should do that today.
     
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