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Leafs Coyotes trade idea

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Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: May 21, 2022
Published: May 23, 2022
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Trade idea I had to help Toronto with the cap crunch and potentially upgrade in net, with the base of it being sending Mrazek and this year's 1st to the Coyotes for Vejmelka and a pick. Realistically, it's very unlikely Arizona would move Vejmelka after just extending him, but we'll ignore that for this hypothetical. My question is where the sweet spot in value is for the pick Arizona sends back.
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ARI
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Vejmelka, Karel
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (ARI)
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2022
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2023
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29$81,500,000$86,196,118$196,951$3,030,000-$4,696,118
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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$1,533,333$1,533,333
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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$750,000$750,000
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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RFA - 1
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
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$850,000$850,000
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RFA - 2

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May 23, 2022 at 9:58 p.m.
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No chance Arizona does that. Other NHL teams are not Toronto's farm team
May 23, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.
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leafs say yes. you can take off your third
May 23, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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Coyotes still need NHL goaltending.....Mrzarek and Sateri ain't it
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May 23, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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Take out vejmelka and Arizona would accept. You aren't close in value for him, let alone getting a pick sent back.
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May 23, 2022 at 10:12 p.m.
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Arizona declines.

And i doubt Petr Mrazek is dying to play in the 5,000 seat dump for the next 2 years anyways.
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May 23, 2022 at 10:29 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Arizona declines.

And i doubt Petr Mrazek is dying to play in the 5,000 seat dump for the next 2 years anyways.


Might be a pressure free environment for him to try making a bounce back,

The issue with the trade is that Arizona can sign FAs on one year deals to get the equivalent of a late 1st and they aren't getting a guy that costs little in real dollars + high cap hit for reaching the floor getting a (and seem to like their goalie too). They are going to want to tank this season especially too, so trading for Mrazek to flip him after a rebound (his buy out is cheap for them) isn't worth it
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May 23, 2022 at 10:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No chance Arizona does that. Other NHL teams are not Toronto's farm team


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leafs say yes. you can take off your third


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Coyotes still need NHL goaltending.....Mrzarek and Sateri ain't it


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Take out vejmelka and Arizona would accept. You aren't close in value for him, let alone getting a pick sent back.


Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Arizona declines.

And i doubt Petr Mrazek is dying to play in the 5,000 seat dump for the next 2 years anyways.


First off, thanks for the feedback. Second, it kind of surprises me how much you guys are valuing Vejmelka; I don't think he's necessarily bad, but his numbers this year were sub-par in both traditional SV% and GSAX, which accounts for shot quality. He seems like more of a 1B type long term than a starter, which is basically what Mrazek was before his poor performance this season.
The other thing is that Arizona is pretty obviously tanking next season and although having at least somewhat competent goaltending would help make them look respectable, it's also counterproductive in terms of helping their lottery position. IMO another 1st round pick this year would do wonders for their prospect pool and personally I don't mind this cost at all from their perspective.
Again, appreciate the feedback to hear some others' thoughts.
May 23, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.
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First off, thanks for the feedback. Second, it kind of surprises me how much you guys are valuing Vejmelka; I don't think he's necessarily bad, but his numbers this year were sub-par in both traditional SV% and GSAX, which accounts for shot quality. He seems like more of a 1B type long term than a starter, which is basically what Mrazek was before his poor performance this season.
The other thing is that Arizona is pretty obviously tanking next season and although having at least somewhat competent goaltending would help make them look respectable, it's also counterproductive in terms of helping their lottery position. IMO another 1st round pick this year would do wonders for their prospect pool and personally I don't mind this cost at all from their perspective.
Again, appreciate the feedback to hear some others' thoughts.


Vejmelka ranked 2nd in the league for all goalies (with at least 15 games played) for HD shots against/60. He ranked 25th in HDSV%, for comparison Mrazek ranked 64th out of 65 for HDSV%. Vejmelka was also a rookie this year and only 25. His SV% had way more to do with the quality of team and not him. If you watched him play this year you would know he was excellent at times but a bit streaky. That is something that can be fixed as he starts playing more
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May 23, 2022 at 10:40 p.m.
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First off, thanks for the feedback. Second, it kind of surprises me how much you guys are valuing Vejmelka; I don't think he's necessarily bad, but his numbers this year were sub-par in both traditional SV% and GSAX, which accounts for shot quality. He seems like more of a 1B type long term than a starter, which is basically what Mrazek was before his poor performance this season.
The other thing is that Arizona is pretty obviously tanking next season and although having at least somewhat competent goaltending would help make them look respectable, it's also counterproductive in terms of helping their lottery position. IMO another 1st round pick this year would do wonders for their prospect pool and personally I don't mind this cost at all from their perspective.
Again, appreciate the feedback to hear some others' thoughts.


They are honestly probably tanking for the next 4 years and Vej happily extended their, he probably saw it as an opportunity to keep a starter job, and if has a. 900 on a terrible team in those coming years, ge will likely get the benefit of the doubt as long as he shows flashes of brilliance. I don't think he's all that valuable but I don't think that trade makes sense fkr either team. I wouldn't be surprised if they move schmaltz this year if they manage to move chychrun
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May 23, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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Might be a pressure free environment for him to try making a bounce back,

The issue with the trade is that Arizona can sign FAs on one year deals to get the equivalent of a late 1st and they aren't getting a guy that costs little in real dollars + high cap hit for reaching the floor getting a (and seem to like their goalie too). They are going to want to tank this season especially too, so trading for Mrazek to flip him after a rebound (his buy out is cheap for them) isn't worth it


I did see that his contract is back loaded which obviously lessens the fit for a cash strapped team. Agree with the point about it being a good environment for a bounce back year.
I think the main concern here obviously is giving up Vejmelka, who they obviously value higher than me squinting with tongue out. I think if Mrazek put up similar numbers to for instance, Scott Wedgewood this year it wouldn't hurt the tank too much, and obviously if he stinks it actively helps it.

The point about signing rental free agents is true, but this doesn't diminish their ability to do that, and those players would have to play well enough that they'd be helping the Yotes win games; which obviously conflicts with the goal of tanking. I think taking on cap dumps, especially ones that double as reclamation projects, is the best way to go for them. But that's just my take.
May 23, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.
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Vejmelka ranked 2nd in the league for all goalies (with at least 15 games played) for HD shots against/60. He ranked 25th in HDSV%, for comparison Mrazek ranked 64th out of 65 for HDSV%. Vejmelka was also a rookie this year and only 25. His SV% had way more to do with the quality of team and not him. If you watched him play this year you would know he was excellent at times but a bit streaky. That is something that can be fixed as he starts playing more


Just curious, where are you getting your data from? I'm seeing 54/65 in HDSV% via MoneyPuck (with Mrazek at 61st). I'm not seeing any HD shots against column so I'm guessing you have a different source.
May 23, 2022 at 10:52 p.m.
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Just curious, where are you getting your data from? I'm seeing 54/65 in HDSV% via MoneyPuck (with Mrazek at 61st). I'm not seeing any HD shots against column so I'm guessing you have a different source.


Natural Stat Trick I am looking at 5v5 play (and 800+ min) specifically
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May 23, 2022 at 11:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Natural Stat Trick I am looking at 5v5 play (and 800+ min) specifically


Thanks!
May 24, 2022 at 12:21 a.m.
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I did see that his contract is back loaded which obviously lessens the fit for a cash strapped team. Agree with the point about it being a good environment for a bounce back year.
I think the main concern here obviously is giving up Vejmelka, who they obviously value higher than me squinting with tongue out. I think if Mrazek put up similar numbers to for instance, Scott Wedgewood this year it wouldn't hurt the tank too much, and obviously if he stinks it actively helps it.

The point about signing rental free agents is true, but this doesn't diminish their ability to do that, and those players would have to play well enough that they'd be helping the Yotes win games; which obviously conflicts with the goal of tanking. I think taking on cap dumps, especially ones that double as reclamation projects, is the best way to go for them. But that's just my take.


Let's say he does good enough for a team to want to add him, he isn't going to bring in much, plus then they we need a new goalie who is willing to play in front of 5k fans and endure the rebuild. It's much easier and efficient for them to use the space and effort to acquire rentals in the forward and defense positions that won't have too much of an impact on their tanking plan but can't get points or provide some sort of depth elsewhere. So while there is no risk in acquiring him for free for example, there isn't much upside in getting him while moving out their goalie who is locked for cheap. If they move Wedgewood elsewhere they might take him for free.

Edit: they don't got Wedgewood anymore. They have the Finnish goalie from the Olympics that the Leafs signrd and waived before the deadline, he might be a better trade candidate for Mrazek and a small sweetener
 
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