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Trading kadri destroyed this team

Created by: jet11567
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 25, 2022
Published: May 25, 2022
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They had to manage kadri instead of getting rid of him he wouldn’t have done what he did against Boston if he had a simmonds or a Clifford he had nobody and felt he needed to be the guy the Tavares move handicapped this team
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Signing Mrazek and Ritchie instead of him is disgusting
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May 25, 2022 at 6:59 a.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
My god the Dubas PR department jumped all over this one!


Dubas overpaid tavares, made a god awful kadri trade, signed Mrazek and Ritchie, drafted amirov, traded a first to offload Marleau what has he done that has actually benefited the leafs?
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May 25, 2022 at 6:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Weird because the Blueline and the big 4 aren't the problem. Just going to say the mob think nonsense to get in fights eh? I expected more from you.


this season or when kadri was traded. when kadri was traded sure. this season the big 4 did good but the goaltending sucked. overall lack of grit throughout the whole team as well.
May 25, 2022 at 6:59 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
toews and fox off the top of my head.


so one hilariously terrible trade made 2 years later and one guy who told teams he wouldnt sign with any team but the rangers? that's it?
May 25, 2022 at 6:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
It's obvious this is just a troll site now.


Or maybe we just disagree!!!
May 25, 2022 at 7:00 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
oh look, the Lou PR club i trying damage control


Do you get paid to just come here and criticize anyone who dares to critique this team? Is there some kind of job that actually employs you to be a stooge and just cheerleader “rah rah Leafs are perfect”? Because it’s all you do on this site. I hope MLSE is paying good money because otherwise it’s pretty disturbing that a person will go through all this effort to spend all their time on a website criticizing strangers who don’t agree with you.
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May 25, 2022 at 7:00 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
oh look, the Lou PR club i trying damage control


Lou is a terrible gm but he still did more to help the leafs than Dubas!
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May 25, 2022 at 7:01 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
so is he super important or not?I thought trading him destroyed this team yet he's apparently not even good enough to help them win a single extra game?


aside from mcdavid and vasy there aren't too many players who can singly handedly win a game. kadri isn't one of them.
May 25, 2022 at 7:01 a.m.
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Put it this way, the quickest way to compare is think if the team is better with 11mil Tavares OR Kadri, and TWO of Conor Brown, Kapanen and AJohnsson for 11.1mil.

Thats a pretty deep forward corps.

You'd have to make a bunch of other changes and what ifs to go back in time, but ultimately its really simple to think of the three players you could have kept from that time for the same price/cap hit.

Ultimately it was a very poor decision to make that move, with Matthews/Marner/Nylander all coming into big paydays, which has since that point limited what the club could do financially. Many teams, including cap winners have had huge salaries tied up in 4-5 players, PIT had Crosby, Malkin, Letang, and MAF, LA had Quick, Doughty, Kopitar, CHI had Kane, Toews, Keith, Crawford, but the difference is that no one had 4 huge salaries all at forward.

It hasn;t worked.

Kadri was the whipping boy for Leaf losses, then Andersen, it goes on and on, without ever actually fixing the team, and yet Shanahan continues to march out the same flawed model.
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May 25, 2022 at 7:01 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
Dubas overpaid tavares, made a god awful kadri trade, signed Mrazek and Ritchie, drafted amirov, traded a first to offload Marleau what has he done that has actually benefited the leafs?


I was gonna counter this with a bunch of really obvious stuff, but other than the fact that you're clearly blatantly trolling, throwing in drafting a kid who developed brain cancer after the fact as a 'bad' move is really gross and petty and pretty much invalidates any sliver of worthiness your arguments carried
May 25, 2022 at 7:02 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
Or maybe we just disagree!!!


Seriously it’s like the same person with more than o e account, or does MLSE actually pay people to spend their time online stamping our criticism of the regime? I’m being sarcastic but the way they act it makes me wonder?
May 25, 2022 at 7:02 a.m.
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Put it this way, the quickest way to compare is think if the team is better with 11mil Tavares OR Kadri, Kapanen and AJohnsson for 11.1mil.

Thats a pretty deep forward corps.

You'd have to make a bunch of other changes and what ifs to go back in time, but ultimately its really simple to think of the three players you could have kept from that time for the same price/cap hit.

Ultimately it was a very poor decision to make that move, with Matthews/Marner/Nylander all coming into big paydays, which has since that point limited what the club could do financially. Many teams, including cap winners have had huge salaries tied up in 4-5 players, PIT had Crosby, Malkin, Letang, and MAF, LA had Quick, Doughty, Kopitar, CHI had Kane, Toews, Keith, Crawford, but the difference is that no one had 4 huge salaries all at forward.

It hasn;t worked.

Kadri was the whipping boy for Leaf losses, then Andersen, it goes on and on, without ever actually fixing the team, and yet Shanahan continues to march out the same flawed model.


Don’t forget Conor Brown!
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May 25, 2022 at 7:04 a.m.
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Do you get paid to just come here and criticize anyone who dares to critique this team? Is there some kind of job that actually employs you to be a stooge and just cheerleader “rah rah Leafs are perfect”? Because it’s all you do on this site. I hope MLSE is paying good money because otherwise it’s pretty disturbing that a person will go through all this effort to spend all their time on a website criticizing strangers who don’t agree with you.


lol, the guy who shows up accusing people of being dubas' PR team without a single word about the actual trades or signing being discussed wants to talk big about putting effort in to criticise strangers.
This is some comedy right here
May 25, 2022 at 7:05 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
lol, the guy who shows up accusing people of being dubas' PR team without a single word about the actual trades or signing being discussed wants to talk big about putting effort in to criticise strangers.
This is some comedy right here


What has Dubas don’t that has benefited the leafs?
May 25, 2022 at 7:06 a.m.
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I was gonna counter this with a bunch of really obvious stuff, but other than the fact that you're clearly blatantly trolling, throwing in drafting a kid who developed brain cancer after the fact as a 'bad' move is really gross and petty and pretty much invalidates any sliver of worthiness your arguments carried


amirov was just bad luck. can't really blame dubas for that. however the rest is valid. id add the muzzin trade, and overpaying star players to that list too.
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May 25, 2022 at 7:07 a.m.
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lol, the guy who shows up accusing people of being dubas' PR team without a single word about the actual trades or signing being discussed wants to talk big about putting effort in to criticise strangers.
This is some comedy right here


But all you do every single time you post here is just criticize people. I can’t recall a single time you’ve ever talked about the actual play of the team. All your posts are cheerleading and then attacking other people.
May 25, 2022 at 7:08 a.m.
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Put it this way, the quickest way to compare is think if the team is better with 11mil Tavares OR Kadri, and TWO of Conor Brown, Kapanen and AJohnsson for 11.1mil.

Thats a pretty deep forward corps.

You'd have to make a bunch of other changes and what ifs to go back in time, but ultimately its really simple to think of the three players you could have kept from that time for the same price/cap hit.

Ultimately it was a very poor decision to make that move, with Matthews/Marner/Nylander all coming into big paydays, which has since that point limited what the club could do financially. Many teams, including cap winners have had huge salaries tied up in 4-5 players, PIT had Crosby, Malkin, Letang, and MAF, LA had Quick, Doughty, Kopitar, CHI had Kane, Toews, Keith, Crawford, but the difference is that no one had 4 huge salaries all at forward.

It hasn;t worked.

Kadri was the whipping boy for Leaf losses, then Andersen, it goes on and on, without ever actually fixing the team, and yet Shanahan continues to march out the same flawed model.


the revisionist history here is exceptional. We've got people saying that Kadri was a whiping boy despite doing obvious things that hurt a team in 7 game series where he could have helped (but didnt) then saying how he couldnt over come bad goaltending or bad defence depth, but then we get other people saying that the leafs trading for Muzzin was also bad and letting andersen go was bad.
So was it Kadri, defensive depth or the goalie who let in softies during elimination games?
May 25, 2022 at 7:09 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
What has Dubas don’t that has benefited the leafs?


yeah, i know you arnt seriously that dumb and are just trolling
May 25, 2022 at 7:10 a.m.
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amirov was just bad luck. can't really blame dubas for that. however the rest is valid. id add the muzzin trade, and overpaying star players to that list too.


the muzzin trade was a clear good move for the leafs. like obviously so
May 25, 2022 at 7:10 a.m.
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yeah, i know you arnt seriously that dumb and are just trolling


Bro we lost in the first round 6 years in a row and Dubas is a huge reason why I hope he get fired along she shanafraud
May 25, 2022 at 7:10 a.m.
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But all you do every single time you post here is just criticize people. I can’t recall a single time you’ve ever talked about the actual play of the team. All your posts are cheerleading and then attacking other people.


amazing, ive literally talked about the play of the team and the reasoning in this very thread. All your posts here are literally criticising other people here.
May 25, 2022 at 7:11 a.m.
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the muzzin trade was a clear good move for the leafs. like obviously so


Trading trevor Moore,Sean Durzi and grundstrom for an injury prone d man was a good move ?
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May 25, 2022 at 7:11 a.m.
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Bro we lost in the first round 6 years in a row and Dubas is a huge reason why I hope he get fired along she shanafraud


Bro, you're a troll
May 25, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.
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Bro, you're a troll


“Bro” get a real job or do something with your life besides picking internet fights with strangers
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May 25, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.
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Bro, you're a troll


I think you might be because paying 17 million to Tavares and muzzin is so bad in hard cap league
May 25, 2022 at 7:13 a.m.
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“Bro” get a real job or do something with your life besides picking internet fights with strangers


That's his entire existence
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