Quoting: Haymaker26
I am confused. Why dump a lot of these players? Yeah, changes are necessary, but this is a pretty high amount of overturn.
I agree with YoungPattyKane, if you can get Roslovic's rights for cheap and sign him for less than 4.2, do it. I think we'd be outbid on Nichushin, and maybe the same on Athanasiou.
Rust being on the third line makes no sense to me considering he could have probably gotten at least $6 mil/year on the open market and is better than Athanasiou and Anderson.
McGinn is a solid player being traded away for literally nothing. We might need the cap space but we can get something in return for him, and he's been a good bottom six player for us. It's even more strange to me if we're signing Marchment to a larger contract and then playing him on the 4th line.
I would seriously consider resigning Danton Heinen instead of Athanasiou and Milano. I loved the deal when it was made and he has surpassed my expectations for him.
You essentially cap dump Kapanen's RFA rights for a player bouyed by having chemistry with Zegras when he has value either here or elsewhere as a cheap gamble. That deal is a player you have on the 4th line for an ok prospect and a guy who can bounce back to ~60 point form, which sounds very good for Anaheim.
Speaking of trades that are better for the other team, Josh Anderson. Anderson is a few year older on a long term deal with a higher cap hit than Marino. He was on pace for around 22 goals and 38 points over a full 82 games this year. That's good, but if we're complaining about Zucker for that cap hit, no one in Pittsburgh is going to like Anderson. Pittsburgh also has little depth at RD, Ian Cole isn't a top 4 dman, and Marino is more valuable to the Pens than this. That move makes no sense for us.
I don't think the McGinn, Marino, or Kapanen trades make the Penguins better. I don't think the Athanasiou or Cole signings make the Penguins better. If we have to dump Zucker and Carter to get better, then oh well. There are some good ideas. The Pettersson deal has become standard. I like Roslovic and Nichushkin if we can land them. I wouldn't mind Marchment if he's on the 3rd line. But I don't think this team, especially with these lines, is getting past the first round.
Quoting: Haymaker26
I am confused. Why dump a lot of these players? Yeah, changes are necessary, but this is a pretty high amount of overturn.
I agree with YoungPattyKane, if you can get Roslovic's rights for cheap and sign him for less than 4.2, do it. I think we'd be outbid on Nichushin, and maybe the same on Athanasiou.
Rust being on the third line makes no sense to me considering he could have probably gotten at least $6 mil/year on the open market and is better than Athanasiou and Anderson.
McGinn is a solid player being traded away for literally nothing. We might need the cap space but we can get something in return for him, and he's been a good bottom six player for us. It's even more strange to me if we're signing Marchment to a larger contract and then playing him on the 4th line.
I would seriously consider resigning Danton Heinen instead of Athanasiou and Milano. I loved the deal when it was made and he has surpassed my expectations for him.
You essentially cap dump Kapanen's RFA rights for a player bouyed by having chemistry with Zegras when he has value either here or elsewhere as a cheap gamble. That deal is a player you have on the 4th line for an ok prospect and a guy who can bounce back to ~60 point form, which sounds very good for Anaheim.
Speaking of trades that are better for the other team, Josh Anderson. Anderson is a few year older on a long term deal with a higher cap hit than Marino. He was on pace for around 22 goals and 38 points over a full 82 games this year. That's good, but if we're complaining about Zucker for that cap hit, no one in Pittsburgh is going to like Anderson. Pittsburgh also has little depth at RD, Ian Cole isn't a top 4 dman, and Marino is more valuable to the Pens than this. That move makes no sense for us.
I don't think the McGinn, Marino, or Kapanen trades make the Penguins better. I don't think the Athanasiou or Cole signings make the Penguins better. If we have to dump Zucker and Carter to get better, then oh well. There are some good ideas. The Pettersson deal has become standard. I like Roslovic and Nichushkin if we can land them. I wouldn't mind Marchment if he's on the 3rd line. But I don't think this team, especially with these lines, is getting past the first round.
Quoting: Haymaker26
I am confused. Why dump a lot of these players? Yeah, changes are necessary, but this is a pretty high amount of overturn.
I agree with YoungPattyKane, if you can get Roslovic's rights for cheap and sign him for less than 4.2, do it. I think we'd be outbid on Nichushin, and maybe the same on Athanasiou.
Rust being on the third line makes no sense to me considering he could have probably gotten at least $6 mil/year on the open market and is better than Athanasiou and Anderson.
McGinn is a solid player being traded away for literally nothing. We might need the cap space but we can get something in return for him, and he's been a good bottom six player for us. It's even more strange to me if we're signing Marchment to a larger contract and then playing him on the 4th line.
I would seriously consider resigning Danton Heinen instead of Athanasiou and Milano. I loved the deal when it was made and he has surpassed my expectations for him.
You essentially cap dump Kapanen's RFA rights for a player bouyed by having chemistry with Zegras when he has value either here or elsewhere as a cheap gamble. That deal is a player you have on the 4th line for an ok prospect and a guy who can bounce back to ~60 point form, which sounds very good for Anaheim.
Speaking of trades that are better for the other team, Josh Anderson. Anderson is a few year older on a long term deal with a higher cap hit than Marino. He was on pace for around 22 goals and 38 points over a full 82 games this year. That's good, but if we're complaining about Zucker for that cap hit, no one in Pittsburgh is going to like Anderson. Pittsburgh also has little depth at RD, Ian Cole isn't a top 4 dman, and Marino is more valuable to the Pens than this. That move makes no sense for us.
I don't think the McGinn, Marino, or Kapanen trades make the Penguins better. I don't think the Athanasiou or Cole signings make the Penguins better. If we have to dump Zucker and Carter to get better, then oh well. There are some good ideas. The Pettersson deal has become standard. I like Roslovic and Nichushkin if we can land them. I wouldn't mind Marchment if he's on the 3rd line. But I don't think this team, especially with these lines, is getting past the first round.
I see what your saying, but I'm a believer that it's good to spread the depth out sometimes, not always have the best players on the 1st lines. Anthanasiou being on the second line is not because he is the best player, he is just so fast I think it would compliment Malkin well. Rust and Rakell being on the third line and Marchment on the 4th would give us an extremely deep bottom 6, and they can be shuffled around all season until combinations are found that work. Rust can play on any line, which is a testament to how good of a player he is. I don't mind getting rid of Heinen, McGinn, Kapanen, or any of the bottom 6 from last year besides Bluger. Needs an overhaul imo. Heinen is fine a little hot and cold, McGinn was okay first part of season but not good second half, and Kapanen was just awful all season. They are all similar players too, we need more diversity, some speed, youth, skill, physicality. I think it would benefit us to get more of an edge on this team.